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  • AE Future insights from you Professional Cows

    Posted by Jon Merrifield on May 24, 2017 at 5:39 pm

    Thank you for taking the time to ponder…
    What do you think about the future development of AE? Is multi-core processing/rendering gone for good? Perhaps making this product function well to the lowest common denominator prevents Adobe from developing it to its performance potential? Since, and although, AE is my tool of choice for finishing and the high-end VFX work we create and I’m not “too much” of a CD4 user, and I color often in Premiere, shall I just build our new system putting the money or effort into top of the line GPUs and only focus on CPU speed and not cores? Maybe wrong forum and I always appreciate what Bob Z. has to say, yet AE seems to be the variable in software development structure versus other software tools. Any thoughts or insights from the AE Cow Pros who I respect greatly would be appreciated. Thank you.

    Jon Merrifield
    PELi VFX

    Peter Cooper replied 8 years, 10 months ago 3 Members · 3 Replies
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  • Walter Soyka

    May 25, 2017 at 10:26 am

    Adobe is still in-progress on their Ae re-architecture efforts. I don’t think that we are seeing a focus on the “lowest common denominator.” Instead, I think we are seeing Ae stripped down and rebuilt before our eyes. It’s a big app, so it’s a big effort, and it’s not at all clear what the future holds. That makes purchasing decisions difficult.

    The last few releases have seen more and more effects pushed onto the GPU; that’s about the best we have to go on. I personally expect to see that trend of GPU acceleration continue.

    I would be surprised if the old-style multiprocessing came back, as I think that would lead to resource contention on the GPU, but that’s just a theory. Even without the old MP (which was always more of a hack than a proper solution), I think there are still gains to be made on CPU utilization. A number of effects, especially the newer ones, seem to be nicely multi-threaded. Do some heavy renders with an old effect like Wave World, then do some heavy renders with a newer effect like Camera Lens Blur, and watch your multi-core CPU performance. Wave World leaves my big workstations practically idle at around 6% during render, but Camera Lens Blur maxes all CPUs out.

    Puget Systems has done some really interesting research on Ae and Pr performance:
    https://www.pugetsystems.com/recommended/Recommended-Systems-for-Adobe-After-Effects-144/Hardware-Recommendations
    https://www.pugetsystems.com/recommended/Recommended-Systems-for-Adobe-Premiere-Pro-143/Hardware-Recommendations

    Until we see anything concrete from Adobe, I’d stick with their recommendations: 6 to 10 faster cores versus more slow ones; lots and lots of RAM; a good GPU (currently more for Pr than Ae); SSD drives.

    Walter Soyka
    Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live [link]
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
    @keenlive   |   RenderBreak [blog]   |   Profile [LinkedIn]

  • Peter Cooper

    June 8, 2017 at 3:04 am

    Noob question: would it be 6-10 with or without hyperthreading?

    I’m on an i5-4460 / GTX970 and thinking of upgrading the CPU or GPU as I’m maxed out on RAM and I already have a fairly decent SSD (850 EVO).

    Thanks,

  • Peter Cooper

    June 9, 2017 at 3:07 am

    Thanks!

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