AE CS6 11.0.1 CUDA BENCHMARK PROJECT – test your graphics cards!

[Teddy Gage]

Ian you’re a mad man. Thanks for taking over this thread, I can’t believe it’s still going strong!

And don’t forget the original titan series are getting cheaper, I have two in SLI that outpace my 2x gtx 580 setup, with 6 gb vram, and have pretty good compute scores.

So I too, am looking for a new setup and wondering about two options

#1 is a single 780 ti 6 gb

#2 is a gtx 780 ti 4 gb + gtx 970 for gaming and 3D work

#3 is a cheaper gtx 580 3gb + gtx 980 for better future proofing and more vram

Im leaning more towards option 3 right now… Would there be any driver issues / vram limits by going with this setup? I know AE can recognize the discrete cards separately, in fact it may ignore the 980 altogether

[Ian Mapleson]

Teddy writes:
> Ian you’re a mad man. …

I try… 😀

> Thanks for taking over this thread, I can’t believe it’s still going strong!

No prob! I know people are finding it useful. There’s a lot of solo pro AE users
out there who need info.

> And don’t forget the original titan series are getting cheaper, I have two in
> SLI that outpace my 2x gtx 580 setup, with 6 gb vram, and have pretty good compute scores.

That’s a good point, I’ve not really followed what’s been happening with Titan
pricing on the used market. For AE though, AFAIK its only advantage is the RAM
capacity. Hence why I’m hoping when Adobe does ad V2 CUDA support, we’ll also see
the 980 Ti given 8GB.

I’m curious, have you ever tried just using AE in a normal manner whith the Titans’
64bit fp mode set on vs. off, see if you can discern any difference? Even if it has
an effect on your benchmark, it’s the general usage which matters more.

So I too, am looking for a new setup and wondering about two options

> #1 is a single 780 ti 6 gb

Are you sure there is such a thing? I was under the impression NVIDIA never
released a 6GB 780 Ti.

> #2 is a gtx 780 ti 4 gb + gtx 970 for gaming and 3D work

The 780 Ti would be 3GB. Not sure it’s wise to mix cards with difference
CUDA architectures. One thing I do know though, a 580 plus a 980 would
easily be slower than two Titans.

Roughly speaking, a 980 is about 10% slower than two 580s, and from data
elsewhere it seems like a normal Titan is about the same as two good 580s
for CUDA. So, think of your Titans as being like four good 580s, then
compare that to 580 + 980 which is a tad less than three 580s.

Really, the only seriously useful step up from two Titans would be either
more Titans, extra 780 Tis, or just wait for V2 CUDA support and replace
them with 980 Tis.

> #3 is a cheaper gtx 580 3gb + gtx 980 for better future proofing and more vram

If V2 CUDA was supported right now, then yes option 3 would make the most sense
I guess, but until proper support is added… dunno, numerous options in the
meantime.

> … Would there be any driver issues / vram limits by going with this setup? …

There could well be driver issues, since the CUDA version is different. Even if
the system as a whole functioned ok, AE would act weird I expect, and right now
of course the RayTrace3D & other CUDA functions wouldn’t work.

> I know AE can recognize the discrete cards separately, in fact it may ignore
> the 980 altogether

If you had the 980 as the primary display-output card, then the OGL functions in
AE will likely work, but only the 580 will show up in the CUDA pool.

Ian.

——–
SGI Guru

[Simon Gomes]

ok the asus matrix 780ti is the good choice for me if i follow you … but … In AE we aren’t doing only things with ray tracer. Cuda it’s for a little part of the AE use. Cuda are no effect on 90% things we made on AE. In this regard it’s not preferable to buy the ASUS 780 6G?

Yourself said that the 780 6g it’s the only card on 700 series that you consider. (and the 780 ti of course)

I really hesitate between the asus matrix 780 ti and de asus 780 6g. I don’t know what is the good choice ^^

[Ian Mapleson]

Simon Gomes writes:
> … Cuda it’s for a little part of the AE use. …

Check the release notes, it also accelerates various aspects of the main GUI, including RAM Preview.

> … Cuda are no effect on 90% things we made on AE. …

That’s why I mentioned not ignoring main RAM size, CPU power, SSDs, etc.

> … In this regard it’s not preferable to buy the ASUS 780 6G?

Only if you’re going to work with 4K. I doubt you’d benefit from the larger RAM if you’re
mainly dealing with HD.

> … Yourself said that the 780 6g it’s the only card on 700 series that you consider.

You’ve misread; what I meant was, of the cards below the 780 Ti, the 760 6GB is the
one I’d prefer if one wants a single card and does not like the noise/heat/power issues of
580s, but really what I mean is, if one has the budget to afford the 760 6GB at all, then
one is better off with the 780 Ti IMO, because if one is dealing with 4K material
then it makes sense to have at least two Titan/Blacks to cope with that kind of workload;
remember 4K will likely incur 4X the resource usage of HD/2K.

It’s a bit like those wishing to play games at 4K. Newer GPUs have enough RAM to run the
latest games at 4K with high detail (3GB minimum usually), but just one such card is normally
not good enough to get a decent frame rate. Thus, for 4K gaming with a good frame rate, one
typically needs two newer GPUs to get both the RAM capacity and the performance.

Just my opinion of course, from seeing what people do with the RayTrace3D function.

> I really hesitate between the asus matrix 780 ti and de asus 780 6g. I don’t know what
> is the good choice ^^

To clarify: since you can consider the 780 Ti at all, then get that one. I would only err
for the 780 6GB if I was working with 4K, but if so then it would have to be two cards, or
two Titans, not just one GPU (assuming the budget). IMO the extra speed of the 780 Ti
outweighs the lower RAM for the vast majority of users, ie. anyone working with 2K or below.
Or for 4K, get one 780 6GB or Titan and then get a 2nd GPU later asap.

NB: Your comment about AE doing other things aswell is why I’ve often built combo systems
where the primary display card is a Quadro (for better OGL) and the other cards are 580s
or whatever. I’ve done one with a K5000 and two 1.5GB 580s, one with a Quadro 4000 and three
3GB 580s, and the most recent system had a Quadro 4000 and one 3GB 580.

Installing the drivers in the correct manner is important, and one should use driver sets
from the same release timeframe/code, but it does work ok, ie. Quadro shown as main output
and OGL accelerator in AE preferences, 580s or whatever shown as the CUDA munchers. Nice
part of this is with a K5000, it means the primary display isn’t limited for OGL ops by
the 580’s lower 3GB (K5000 has 4GB), though since the K5000 is quite good anyway for CUDA,
it can still be included in the CUDA pool (for systems with Quadro 4000s, I don’t include
the Q4K in the CUDA pool).

So, get the 780 Ti. Unless you work with 4K and some heavy data, it’ll service you well.
All I’d say is stuff in a 2nd card as soon as is practical. 8) That’d be sweet. Most
likely the cost of used 780 Tis will drop a lot when the 980 Ti comes out – at least,
that’s what I’m hoping anyway; I’ve built a 4th system with a K5000 to sell (3970X, etc.),
but not yet added extra CUDA GPUs. This time I want to fill it with one or more used 780 Tis.

Ian.

——–
SGI Guru

[Simon Gomes]

OK i’ll buy my new tower tommorow and you convince me to buy the matrix 780 ti.

In regard of what you said bellow, i have great cpu (i7 5820k), an SSD 500g (and 2g hdd for the storage) and 16g (fit to 32 asap). I think it’s enough for 2D/3D stuff (i’ll also made some stuff on cinema 4d but most of the time on AE).

I’ve understand everything of what you said now. Sorry if i didn’t understand before, i’m belgian, i speak and read a little english but not everything.

Thank’s for your precious help 🙂

[Simon Gomes]

SO, i have received my new computer, this is my score.

Intel 5820K 3,3ghz
SSD 500g
16g DDR4
GTX 780 Ti

3:05 to render.

[Ian Mapleson]

Excellent!! That’s a full minute faster than the scores people have posted for 780s. Cool!

Someone posted a quicker 780 Ti a ways back, but I think that was for a heftily oc’d card.

Have you oc’d the CPU? What does it score for Cinebench 11.529 & R15, Arion CPU, etc.? See
how it compares to my data:

https://www.sgidepot.co.uk/misc/tests-jj.txt

(if the page looks mangled in your browser, select No Style for the Page Style option, eg.
from the View menu in Firefox)

Ian.

——–
SGI Guru

[Marc Gutt]

[Ian Mapleson] “Someone posted a quicker 780 Ti a ways back, but I think that was for a heftily oc’d card.”

Yes. The complete system of ali was OC:
https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/2/1050061

P.S. I’ve paid for the MSI GTX580 EX cards. Now I’m waiting for the delivery. The two cards cost 210,- EUR (ca. $ 235,-) incl. shipping. Compared to the last ebay auctions ($120, $128, $136) this is a good price.

[Ian Mapleson]

That’s a good price! So did you get the Lightning Xtreme models, with 832MHz core?

What motherboard are you using? I hope you have at least tri-slot spacing, and
good cooling! 🙂

Ian.

——–
SGI Guru

[Marc Gutt]

[Ian Mapleson] “What motherboard are you using?”

Its the Asrock Z77 Extreme 4. Two cards fit, but the power supply is to weak. Because of that only one benchmark:

MSI GTX 580 Lightning Extreme
5:15
Screenshot:
https://www.maxrev.de/adobe-after-effects-benchmark-gtx-580-bild-426420.htm