AE CS6 11.0.1 CUDA BENCHMARK PROJECT – test your graphics cards!

[Simon Gomes]

Ok thanks! 🙂 Too bad that gtx970 don’t work properly yet :/ She have more cuda core than the 770.

I don’t know much about pc (i was a mac user since 6 years) so i have a little trouble to choose an good graphic card ^^

And i don’t know the reputation of PNY, MSI, ASUS, … So i don’t know wich company is the better.

Most of the 770 are only 2g and the 970 have 4g, it’s a huge difference no?

[Marc Gutt]

[Simon Gomes] “Most of the 770 are only 2g and the 970 have 4g, it’s a huge difference no?”

This is only interesting for gaming I think. As of the listed benchmarks the RAM size didn’t matter:
GTX 580 3GB 5min 42s
GTX 580 1.5GB 5min 33s
GTX 580 3GB 5min 5s
GTX 580 1.5GB 5min 36s

The benchmark with my GTX 570 used only 50% of the RAM and I think the usage will only raise if you have many 3D objects with high resolution textures or exporting 4K or higher resolution videos.

[Marc Gutt]

My last post was deleted?!

[Ian Mapleson] “He’s talking about Photoshop. Can’t comment on that, I don’t use it.”

You mean “Premiere”. Ok, will ask him about results from After Effects.

P.S.
My benchmark with a Zotac GTX 570 Amp Edition 1280MB (displayed as 1.25GB):
5min 57s

Screenshot:
https://www.maxrev.de/adobe-after-effects-benchmark-gtx-570-bild-426419.htm

[Simon Gomes]

OK but here everybody say that the 970 are not supported but i found this https://www.studio1productions.com/Articles/AfterEffects.htm

And this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmMwmq3eifk

What do you think about that tricks?

I think also that the architecture of 970 are more “modern” and it is better for to not change the graphic gard in 6 month ore one year … no?

[Marc Gutt]

You can see the raytraced error in the video itself. This video is a joke. Read the comments and you find out that the author opened a ticket at the nvidia support website.

P.s. you need to do similar steps to use a GTX 780 with CS6, but it uses the Keppler architecture like the supported GTX 580 so it results no problems. The GTX 970 uses a complete different architecture called Maxwell. There will never be an official update through Adobe for CS6 as it is an old version of a program.

The only option would be a driver update through nvidia but I don’t think this will result a fast encoding/rendering.

[Simon Gomes]

Thank you Marc for your quickly respond.

To be honest, i’ll buy a new tower in 2 or 3 day’s. I was a mac user since 6 years and now i want a PC because mac it’s not good for motion design at the price i want. (it’s for motion design stuff, AE and C4D)

I’ll buy a tower for 2000€ (2300$) and the only final question is : Which is the card i have to buy for After Effects? I can put 400€ (460$) GPU. In my investigation, 2 GPU sounds good for people i asked: GTX 770 or GTX 970.

I’m a newbie in PC so, in my budget, wich GPU can i buy with more CUDA core?

It’s more better to take this one https://www.ldlc.be/fiche/PB00148420.html in place of GTX 970?

Thank you 🙂

[Ian Mapleson]

Simon, I’ve talked about this a lot in my previous posts, please check them out.

– 900 series cards are not yet officially supported, and adding their names to
the ray trace text file will not help; they use Maxwell CUDA V2. The OGL stuff
will likely work ok, the app will launch ok, but RayTrace3D can’t use them.

– If you care about cost more than anything, then search for two used 3GB GTX 580s.
Combined, these are quicker than a Titan, at the expense of power, heat & noise.

– If you want maximum speed, the fastest card right now is the 780 Ti.

– Between these two are other options like the 770, the 780 (including the 6GB 780)
and of course the Titan.

Or you can combine pro & consumer cards, eg. a K5000 for the primary display output,
two 580s (or whatever) for CUDA.

See previous posts here for performance examples of all these cards.

NOTE: based on Arion data, a 980 is about 10% slower than two 580s, so even if/when
Adobe fully supports Maxwell CUDA V2, the fastest single card for AE/RayTrace3D will
still be the 780 Ti. We won’t see this change until the 980 Ti and/or Titan II come out.

Your choice will impact the rest of the system if you have an overclocked CPU, eg.
air coolers can be affected by any heat dumped inside the case, so external exhaust
GPUs are better if you can find them, though this matters less for water-cooled CPUs.

Ian.

——–
SGI Guru

[Marc Gutt]

First I repeat the suggestion of Ian:
“In that case go for a 780, 780 Ti, or multiple 580s. Or of course multiple 780/Ti cards
if the budget permits.”

In this thread nobody uses the 770. So I can’t find a AE benchmark time. But in total its much slower than a 780 Ti (or 970):
https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=GeForce+GTX+770

Beside that you should consider buying two used cards as the 700 series cards aren’t build anymore and the 780 Ti won’t fit your budget if you buy it new (except you find a really cheap clearing stock). Or buy only one this time.

My last suggestion is to buy a card with DVI, HDMI and DisplayPort. Without DP I would never buy the card as it is much less future proof. Some new monitors support only HDMI or DP and 4K is only possible through DP or HDMI 2.0 (Only the 900 series supports this HDMI version).

Only for your interest: I will buy two used 580 as they are much cheapier than one 780.

[Ian Mapleson]

Marc writes:
> Only for your interest: I will buy two used 580 as they are much cheapier than one 780.

That’s why my system has four good 3GB 580s. 😀 It’s faster than two Titan Blacks.
The downside is heat, noise & power, though the 580s I chose are on the lower side of
noise output.

By ‘good 580’ I mean models such as the MSI Lightning Xtreme 3GB (832MHz default core,
overclocks to between 900 and 1000 no problem, I run mine at 900 or 950 depending on
the ambient temp). Standard 580s include the Palit 3GB with a 783MHz core, these are
louder, with a slower base clock, and they can’t oc beyond about 900MHz (for the Palit,
1075mV vcore worked with mine).

Note that I have two 980s now; can’t test with AE yet of course, but I’ll run them
through Arion, Blender, etc. soonish. Currently doing gaming tests with an older
platform, Futuremark, etc., eg. https://www.3dmark.com/fs/3821168

Ian.

——–
SGI Guru

[Marc Gutt]

[Ian Mapleson] “By ‘good 580’ I mean models such as the MSI Lightning Xtreme 3GB (832MHz default core,
overclocks to between 900 and 1000 no problem, I run mine at 900 or 950 depending on
the ambient temp). Standard 580s include the Palit 3GB with a 783MHz core, these are
louder, with a slower base clock, and they can’t oc beyond about 900MHz (for the Palit,
1075mV vcore worked with mine).”

MSI Lightning XE are rare to find in Germany. The last one was sold in the UK and at the moment there is only one auction in the US. But maybe I found two in Austria 😀

The same problem with Palit cards. In Germany you will find much more Gainward cards, but they should be the same (Palit is the parent company of Gainward). Most people like the low loudness of the Gainward.

The very last option would be the Asus DirectCUII, but its huge:
https://www.hardwareheaven.com/content/reviews/graphics-cards/28928/asus-geforce-gtx-580-directcu-ii-vs-gainward-geforce-gtx-580-phantom-3-graphics-card-review/4