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  • Advice on controlling sunlight outdoors for coverage.

     Bob Cole updated 5 years, 9 months ago 3 Members · 7 Posts
  • Kyle Smolic

    May 12, 2015 at 8:33 pm

    I have a shoot coming up in a few weeks that takes place on a soccer field. There will be a lot of bright sunlight during our shoot and I’m trying to figure out the best way to diffuse it as we want to shoot a wide shoot of the Dad on the sidelines with the field and kids in the foreground.

    For medium/CU’s I was planning on rigging a 20×20 silk overhead to diffuse the sunlight over the parents on the sideline, but I’m concerned about cutting from a wide with harsh shadows to a medium/CU with even, diffused light. Would it be better to just use a bounce to fill in shadows on the face for the CU’s rather than using silks?

  • Todd Terry

    May 12, 2015 at 8:44 pm

    It may not be as jarring as you think.

    Watch almost any movie that has the same lighting situation… they cut back and forth from silked closeups to non-diffused extreme wide shots all the time, without it causing too much heartburn for the viewers (it’s much like when you see scenes that are sunny, then cut to a reverse, and then back to the master shot which is now cloudy… it happens all the time).

    The first time I ever noticed that was years ago in the movie “City Slickers,” and now my brain sees these changing degrees of diffusion constantly. Remember that most people don’t, though.

    BUT… you might not want your dad’s lighting to look too diffused, not so much so that his lighting doesn’t fit in with the situation.

    And you can always pray for a cloudy-bright day.

    T2

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    Todd Terry
    Creative Director
    Fantastic Plastic Entertainment, Inc.
    fantasticplastic.com

  • Kyle Smolic

    May 12, 2015 at 10:04 pm

    That was a similar response I got and come to think of it I’ve noticed it plenty of times when I’ve been paying attention the lighting in films/commercials. Maybe just a bounce board or two would work for med/CU?

  • Todd Terry

    May 13, 2015 at 6:52 pm

    That’d probably work.

    If I were shooting this, I’d probably worry about diffusing only on closeups, and then not a full diffusion… I have this translucent material that I’d use rather than a full silk… it still gives the full-sun look but still cuts down on the harsh shadows.

    And I definitely wouldn’t bother flying a 20×20… as I’d only use diffusion for mid- to extreme closeups (even a 10x is a major deal, and anything bigger just gets exponentially more complicated/expensive/difficult and time consuming). A 4×4 in a Hollywood frame would probably more than cover it if it’s just a single guy.

    T2

    __________________________________
    Todd Terry
    Creative Director
    Fantastic Plastic Entertainment, Inc.
    fantasticplastic.com

  • Kyle Smolic

    May 15, 2015 at 5:50 pm

    Do you think a 4×4 would work for a small crowd of people in the frame? There would be other parents on the sidelines.

  • Todd Terry

    May 15, 2015 at 7:06 pm

    I’d really never try to get a 4×4 to cover more than one person. Maybe two, if they are having a close conversation.

    T2

    __________________________________
    Todd Terry
    Creative Director
    Fantastic Plastic Entertainment, Inc.
    fantasticplastic.com

  • Bob Cole

    May 27, 2015 at 3:37 am

    What about staging the event so that the parents are backlit?

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