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Advice Needed– Premiere Pro Native Support and other things
Need some advice on which cameras and which HD acquisition formats work natively with Premiere Pro (i.e. you don’t need to transcode, re-wrap, or render the footage (once it’s on the timeline)). I’ve personally only used AVCHD and that codec is not very edit-friendly. It’s somewhat sluggish without rendering the footage first. Our business needs something that we can edit with fast, and not much render time. We are looking at a $5,000 budget for each camera. going to be getting two cameras. we are leaning more towards file-based formats. We are also considering LTO drives for the Mac. Any advice on that would be helpful as well.
Things are gettin’ interesting…
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Be forewarned that EVERYTHING is rendered when exporting at the end of a session. Premiere is different then FCP which stitches together all its renders for a fast output. Ive used P2 and Prores recently and for straight cutting they needed no rendering during the edit process.Owners of various models of Mac Pros seem to report different playback performance with certain formats. Of course any supers or dynamic links with AE will require rendering time. But at the end of the session, when you export the video, all the stuff on the timeline will be rendered out to a file. In this way its different than FCP. This is how an Adobe technician explained it to me.
“What you’re looking for is what we commonly refer to as smart rendering, and it doesn’t exist in PPro. That’s a Final Cut ‘ism, where it splices rendered data from the preview QT files into the final render. Keep in mind that’s a QuickTime centric feature, & doesn’t translate automatically to all file formats.Tom Daigon
Avid DS / PrP / After Effects Editor
http://www.hdshotsandcuts.com
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https://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/features.html#categorylens_c972_featureset_797a
This is for Premiere CS5.5
What version of Premiere Pro are you running? If it’s CS5 and above, are you using compatible nVidia cards? The hardware accelerated playback engine seems to work best with MPEG based camera codecs (h.264,AVCHD, XDCAM, etc). They all seem to work equally well.
Have you also tried looking at playback performance with resolution turned down? I usually set playback resolution for 1080 footage to 1/2 or 1/4 if I have other programs open.
What are the specs on your editing station? Perhaps there is a deficiency we can solve there as well.
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We shoot AVC-Intra on P2.
APP brings in the native files and plays sequence w/o render.Look @ the HPX250 for your camera choice. You’ll need to budget for P2 Cards though.
Chris Tompkins
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Tom, please see my response in the other thread.
https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/3/917524
David
AllinOneFilms.com -
Thank you all for your replies. My boss unfortunately purchased two iMacs and FCPX instead of PPro for work. We ended up going with the JVC HM150U’s which are pretty good little cameras for what we do. I personally run CS5.5 at the moment and will be upgrading to CS6 and a PC in about a year.
..and knowing is half the battle.
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Bummer about FCPX, but glad to hear that at least at home you will have Adobe to work with.
Tom Daigon
PrP / After Effects Editor
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRIg6h-LIm0 (Best viewed at 1080P and full screen)
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