advancing cursor 10 frames left or right

[Terry Esslinger]

1/ If you are zoomed infar enough on your time line the left or right arrow will niove curser one frame at a time.

2/ How did you ungroup the audio and video to begin with. The default is for them to be lad on the time line grouped UNLESS your “ignore event grouping” icon is activated. In that case just inactivate the icon. If you used U to ungroup the video and audio than just highlight the (or select) the audio and video clips and type G (Group)

[Dave Messinger]

Thanks Terry.

Guess I didn’t make things that clear.

1) I am a basically a keyboard editor, much more than a mouse user. One thing I do with Liquid and PP3 during edits to quickly move is to use keyboard shortcuts to move 10 frames at a time (and of course 1 frame at a time) The 10 frames at a time move has been a standard keyboard shortcut with both Liquid and Premiere. I was wondering how you would go about setting a 10 frame keyboard shortcut key with Vegas.

2) I often find myself editing video where I eliminate the sound track and get numerous different video events aligned. Once done, I often find I would like to re-associate the audio of one or 2 of the edited video events. With Liquid, I click on the event’s properties and click the audio propperty back on, and I have sound. When trying to do this with Vegas, I went ahead and ungrouped the sound and deleted it, then ordred a bunch of edited events, and but I could not find how to turn on the audio for just one of the several event’s on timeline for which I had ungrouped and then deleted off the audio.

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[Danny Hays]

I don’t believe there is a ten frame keyboard shortcut. there is alot of ways to customize your keyboard shortcuts, Just check the help file. But like Terry said, zoomed way in , the left and right arrow keys move the cursur one frame, but the further out you zoom the more frames the arrow keys move it. Hope this helps, Danny Hays

[Dave Messinger]

Ah – that is a great tip and I don’t know how I missed what was being said – but I can’t wait to try it and see how it works, cause that seems cool.

I am just learning the nuances of Vegas as I have heard it is great – and by nuances I mean nuances to me. I will take something I can do easily or know the 123’s of getting from A to B within Liquid, and when I try to do the same thing in Vegas, I seem to get a bit bogged down in the process – but I am not always the best at explaining what my nuances are – cause I am not sure of all the terminology for Vegas yet – but I find that posting on forums like this often is the fastest way for me to learn – partly because you have to post in Vegas’s terms to be very clear.

Anyway – when it gets down to becoming important to locate previously observed but unloged “usable and needed footage”, I end up searching a large clip in search of that location. And I usually scrub the mouse till I get to the area I think it is near, then switch to quickly advance (or reverse) 1 frame and 10 frames – because with three ctrl-right’s, I can advance 1 second – so switching back and forth between 1 frame (right arrow) to going a l0 times faster,and keep taping that right arrow key fast and almost advance in real time. Anyway, that’s how I find scenes fast when I need to – and I was trying the same thing with Vegas and having trouble being able to go that fast.

So that was what I was trying to check on in asking the question,
but I didn’t pick up on zooming increases the chunck size –

So I will have to try that out. Thanks.

Dave Messinger
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[Edward Troxel]

If you have the Pro version, you can write a script that will move the cursor forward or backward however you wish and assign that to a keyboard shortcut key. A script could also bring back missing audio for any selected event – both Excalibur and Ultimate S will bring back missing audio for any video event.

Edward Troxel

[Dave Messinger]

I will have to look into scripting in the help file – I checked on Ultimate S and sounds like it is not yet compatible to vVgas 8 – but they are working on it. Both Ultimate S and Excalibur look like they are $150 or so each. Are those typical products that most Vegas editors use ?

I was hoping there was just some easy way inside Vegas8 to get the audio properties of an event re-attached or re-associated. Bummer.

Is the idea in Vegas to always leave audio and video grouped on the timeline, even if you are not going to generally use the associated audio – just so it’s always there ? I guess you could just mimimize the track and turn the audio off.

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[Douglas Spotted eagle]

Both Ultimate S and Excalibur are Vegas 8 compatible, not sure how you meant it isn’t? If you mean 64bit, then yes…that’s a different story. Different app.
As Edward indicated, Vegas scripts can accomplish what you want.
Audio can be grouped/ungrouped at will; I’m assuming you perhaps want to do this for J/L cuts? If so, you can also use scripts for those actions too, making it much easier.

Douglas Spotted Eagle
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[Dave Messinger]

Not having heard of Excalibur or Ultimate S before, I did a search and found a cow posting that was early November that said they were working on updating Ultimate S – so that’s what I meant.

Vegas is new to me. I am just trying to see if I like it – and right off the bat I ran into the separated audio issue – all I was trying to do was to get the audio associated back to an av event that I had deleted out the audio while playing around with the interface. I thought it should be a pretty simple thing to do. From what I am hearing, it takes scripting or a plugin program.

I’m not trying to be critical – I am just asking. With Liquid, all you do is click the event’s audio property back on. I was just having trouble doing it with Vegas – hence my question.

Dave Messinger
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[Edward Troxel]

Adding the audio back can be done manually. You just need to double-click the video event, then right-click the video event and choose “Open in trimmer”. Now press TAB until the audio is selected and the video is not. Next click and drag the audio back down to the timeline.

However, the entire process is much faster via a script.

Edward Troxel

[Dave Messinger]

Thanks Ed. That’s easy enough and I am glad to see it was that easy. But scripting sounds like something to get to know – so I guess I’m off to the help file on scripting.

Dave Messinger
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