advanced audio

[Chris Harlan]

[Aindreas Gallagher] “I jest but – where do you go for that stuff? pro tools? logic? or even soundtrack pro? (which would be magic, because… I actually have that)
“

I’m not sure what you want, but I’ll just blather. Actually, my favorite editor for years was Sound Forge, and if I end up back in the PC world I’ll be looking forward to using that again. The first couple of years I was using FCP, I also owned a SpeedRazor with Digisuite, and I loved all of the Sonic Foundry products, though I don’t think I’ve used anything but Acid loops since Sony bought them. I also used Sonar a lot, and Cool Edit a bit, which will be coming back to me in CS6 as Audition.

For the last Seven or Eight years I’ve been pretty much Mac Only. Sound Track Pro can do everything I listed, but I also do work in Logic and Digital Performer.

[Aindreas Gallagher] “alter or bend the pitch, or stretch a syllable, or add a tiny bit of verb,”

The reason I use these things is that I have to stick a lot of dialog together that was never meant to be together in order to get a thought that may have been several paragraphs long into a short declarative sentence. Sometimes the parts of the idea come from entirely different parts of the episode. Most of this can be done simply by micro editing. But, often enough, the intonation sounds forced and/or ill-matched. That’s when a bit of stretching or pitch-shift on the end of a dominant consonant can make quite the difference. These are usually at moments when the actor’s inflection implies a coming continuation of thought but you want a full stop or vice-versa. Slight elongation of a hard consonant and a slight shift down can give you a full stop where there is none. A slight shift up can single “more to come.” A slight amount of verb can fuzz the joint and make it less visible. It’s imperfect, and doesn’t always work, but is worth a try before abandoning. Other things that I play with at this level are surgery on highly sibilant dialog–dropping words or phrases in between power ‘s’s can use a little cover–and fixing dialog overlap with a similar closing syllable or hard consonant. You can’t always save a great line after its been stepped on, but its good to try. For me, its really all about trying to make bits of dialog that were not meant to go together sound as natural as possible, as well as adding the occasional bit of dramatic augmentation.

[Carsten Orlt]

Just confirmed this behavior in FCP7 as expected.

Shift scrub in viewer to go subframe – release on the point you want the audio to start – set in point – FCP 7 shifts the samples back into the 1 frame grid so your selected subframe location starts on a frame now.

[David Lawrence]

[Carsten Orlt] “Shift scrub in viewer to go subframe – release on the point you want the audio to start – set in point – FCP 7 shifts the samples back into the 1 frame grid so your selected subframe location starts on a frame now.”

Aha! Now I get it.

You’re absolutely right! Never knew you could do that. That is very cool! Thanks Carsten! 🙂

_______________________
David Lawrence
art~media~design~research
propaganda.com
publicmattersgroup.com
facebook.com/dlawrence
twitter.com/dhl

[Aindreas Gallagher]

that’s a fab answer. And bolt your door, because I am coming to steal your brain.

https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos
http://www.ogallchoir.net
promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

[Aindreas Gallagher]

Quite, but not unopened for much longer.

https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos
http://www.ogallchoir.net
promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

[Steve Connor]

[Aindreas Gallagher] “that’s a fab answer. And bolt your door, because I am coming to steal your brain.
“

genuinely terrifying

Steve Connor
“FCPX Professional”
Adrenalin Television

[Richard Herd]

[Chris Harlan] “the actor’s inflection implies “

You mean “intonation” not inflection. ;)(I’m a recovering linguist.)

[Chris Harlan]

[Richard Herd] “[Chris Harlan] “the actor’s inflection implies ”

You mean “intonation” not inflection. ;)(I’m a recovering linguist.)”

No. I mean “inflection,” at least as the term is used in Theatre Arts as opposed, I suppose, to the field linguistics. Many field have overlapping jargon with, often, contrary meanings.

[Richard Herd]

You don’t even know what you don’t know. And I was trying to help be less obtuse.

PS I’m also an actor and we use the term correctly in both theatre, theater, film, and improv.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflection
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intonation_(linguistics)

There you go, now you know more than did yesterday.

[Chris Harlan]

[Richard Herd] “You don’t even know what you don’t know. And I was trying to help be less obtuse.

PS I’m also an actor and we use the term correctly in both theatre, theater, film, and improv.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflection
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intonation_(linguistics)

There you go, now you know more than did yesterday.

“

Oh dude! Bazitch fight, eh? You are just gonna SCHOOL me, right? Really, you shouldn’t get so snippy. And, if you are going to post such things you should take the time to do a little Googling to make sure you are actually right. Yes, I’m aware of the linguistics definition. And, I was an actor for quite a while, though my AFTRA card is long expired. I have a BA in Theatre. I also spent many years in pro workshops when I was younger, and even got to spend a semester in an intensive RSC workshop. I also took a number of Public Speaking classes, which used the same definition, because both disciplines take much of their structure from the classical study of Rhetoric.

If you had bothered to look a little harder, you’d have found that my usage is fairly common.

Here are a whole bunch of different usages. Mine is def. 16: https://www.encyclo.co.uk/define/inflection

Or, try this one: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/inflection_2

Or, how about this WiseGeek article on Elocution: https://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-elocution.htm

Here’s a little history for you. Note that “Inflections” are one of the seven basic principles of Elocution: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elocution

Hey, here’s another one. My usage is def 1: https://dictionary.reference.com/browse/inflection

But wait! There’s more–The specific kind of inflection I was referring to is actually know as “Circumflex inflection.” You can find out about that here: https://www.ehow.com/info_10012295_inflection-speech.html

Hey! Check out the definitions on these Theatre Arts flash cards: https://quizlet.com/2339413/theater-exam-terms-flash-cards/

And, how ’bout this online Speech Class: https://www.nosweatpublicspeaking.com/verbal-communication-2-inflection/

OR, the Broadcast Handbook that shows you a nifty shorthand for actually scripting inflection: https://books.google.com/books?id=_EriWkTePLsC&pg=PA136&lpg=PA136&dq=Circumflex+inflection&source=bl&ots=T7b62xa7up&sig=zI2FlCy8YLv4fO2KJ93SX6BSZMk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=KqqqT4OhIOGpiQLL3qC3Ag&ved=0CEcQ6AEwCDgK#v=onepage&q=Circumflex%20inflection&f=false

Dude, I have no problem with differing POVs or debating what is appropriate terminology, but I’m not crazy about all the condescending “you don’t know what you don’t know,” and the blithe “There you go, now you know more than did yesterday.” Its unbecoming.