advanced audio

[David Lawrence]

[Aindreas Gallagher] “I do this a lot to clean up scratch VOs – you’re killing a pop there aren’t you? that setup – me knows well.”

Yep, exactly right. Simple, fast, and subframe precise. I thought everyone worked this way. Guess there’s still a few advanced audio tricks in legacy for people to learn. 😉

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[David Lawrence]

[Aindreas Gallagher] “don’t you miss proper waveforms at all in FCPX? I detest those small, vector style interpretations of the waveform data.”

Spot on. The FCPX waveform display is a joke. Utter garbage. Another example of the engineering mindset oversimplifying something it doesn’t fully understand. At least have a preference for proper waveforms. Sheesh!

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[Aindreas Gallagher]

I know – its crazy isn’t it? You get some people, I’m not even saying Carsten per se, coming on saying that this thing is the bright new dawn of a brave new age and so then, I’m like, you know –

“dude – the waveforms? did you notice the waveforms? because they are a horrible, horrible joke.”

and then they just like, stare at me without blinking, and then they go – “you don’t get it. luddite.”

the waveforms, in an actual video audio editor. And they are just the worst horrible mess of a thing. I get depressed looking at them. zooming into those weird jagged vector simplifications of the underlying waveform.

I mean, how advanced are you going to get with that jumble of jagged crud down the bottom of the audio clip?

i swear, sometimes – the reality distortion field around the application – strrronng it is.

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[Chris Harlan]

[David Lawrence] “Yep, exactly right. Simple, fast, and subframe precise. I thought everyone worked this way. Guess there’s still a few advanced audio tricks in legacy for people to learn. 😉
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I’m sure there are still tricks for everybody to learn. That was what was so beautiful about pre-X. There are just so many different ways to do things. Wish I’d know about this one, though. I’ve been cleaning up >1/30 second audio in an external wave editor for years before I started with FCP. Of course, you can’t alter or bend the pitch, or stretch a syllable, or add a tiny bit of verb, but this method would help me out about half the time I need to do this.

[Aindreas Gallagher]

[Chris Harlan] “Of course, you can’t alter or bend the pitch, or stretch a syllable, or add a tiny bit of verb, “

I would rather like to know how to do these things.

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[Chris Harlan]

[David Lawrence] “[Aindreas Gallagher] “don’t you miss proper waveforms at all in FCPX? I detest those small, vector style interpretations of the waveform data.”

Spot on. The FCPX waveform display is a joke. Utter garbage. Another example of the engineering mindset oversimplifying something it doesn’t fully understand. At least have a preference for proper waveforms. Sheesh!
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I agree with that.

[Aindreas Gallagher]

[Chris Harlan] “I agree with that.”

uninteresting quote.

“…alter or bend the pitch, or stretch a syllable, or add a tiny bit of verb, ”

the interesting quote.

forget agreeing with anything. I want to know how to do the above Harlan. Give it up man. I’m not joking. I currently have a communications bod failing to deliver on a nautical data communications system, verbally. I somehow feel the need to stretch syllables here my man.

I jest but – where do you go for that stuff? pro tools? logic? or even soundtrack pro? (which would be magic, because… I actually have that)

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[Alex Hawkins]

[Greg Andonian] “Yeah, sub-frame audio editing is nice to have- which is why Adobe added it to Premiere Pro… In 2003. ;)”

Indeed. Another one of those small, insignificant features of Premiere Pro that has stayed hidden amongst the unopened program of the Creative Suite.

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[David Lawrence]

[Aindreas Gallagher] “…alter or bend the pitch, or stretch a syllable, or add a tiny bit of verb… where do you go for that stuff? pro tools? logic? or even soundtrack pro?”

LOL, I use Soundtrack Pro for that kind of thing but yeah, I also want to hear, Chris. Drop us some real advanced audio knowledge!

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[Derek Andonian]

Aindreas Gallagher “don’t you miss proper waveforms at all in FCPX? I detest those small, vector style interpretations of the waveform.”

I agree 100%. I much prefer the standard way where all the audio is in one part of the timeline, and all the video is in another. I don’t mess with the video section of the clip nearly as much as the audio, so it’s nice to have it out of the way.

I will say, though- one thing I DO LIKE about X’s waveforms, is how they dynamically change on-the-fly when you adjust the levels or keyframe them, and how they turn yellow then red when you raise the level too high. There’s a lot of instant feedback there that you don’t get in other NLEs.

But yeah, other than that it’s garbage.

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