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  • adobePremierPro cs5 playback lag

    Posted by Dezmond Gavin on September 28, 2011 at 5:05 pm

    I filmed for my scene using a T2i cam. i have a macbook (not pro) and adobe premier pro 5. the footage files were MOV. Im not sure if i did something wrong with the importing or if im missing a setting but sofar when i place my clips on the edit table/timeline a red bar shows up on top (i.e render) so after rendering all footage the playback goes smoothly. the second i make one cut or any basic minor edit to any clip the red bar shows up again. and no matter how small the clip is when i try to play it, the playback lags like crazy. also the rendering process usually takes a really long time. why is the playback from clips on the edit table so slow? why must i render every single small edit i make? and how can i speed up rendering? please i could really use some guidance!

    Tom Daigon replied 14 years, 7 months ago 8 Members · 22 Replies
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  • Danny Nieder

    September 28, 2011 at 6:25 pm

    The H.264 files from your camera are very CPU intensive to playback in realtime. A Macbook will not be able to do this – even my MacPro Octo-core with 32GB of RAM has trouble keeping up with H.264 in realtime sometimes. You have a few options – you can try to preview at quarter-resolution while you are editing and do the render when you are happy with the edit, or transcode the H.264 footage into something that could playback in better real-time – maybe ProRes will work better for you. Unfortunately, the Macbook doesn’t have a lot of firepower for editing.

  • Shane Ross

    September 28, 2011 at 7:05 pm

    [Danny Nieder] “or transcode the H.264 footage into something that could playback in better real-time – maybe ProRes will work better for you.”

    OK…question. How does one transcode to ProRes if they don’t have FCP? Say they only have Adobe CS5…or 5.5. What format should the editor transcode to for better editing? As Adobe doesn’t have it’s own ProRes or DNxHD. You would have to buy Cineform. Or is that the answer?

    Shane

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  • Tom Daigon

    September 28, 2011 at 7:15 pm

    Lots of folks have been solving this problem by purchasing Motion 5 for $50 bucks and getting access to all the Prores codecs.

    Im in the process of researching Cineform as a viable alternative to Prores, but havent amassed a lot of conclusive info yet.

    Tom Daigon
    Avid DS / PrP / After Effects Editor
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  • Shane Ross

    September 28, 2011 at 7:28 pm

    Ah, I have heard of that. Well, this just shows that Adobe does need a codec of it’s very own. Transcoding still a necessity in many situations.

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Tom Daigon

    September 28, 2011 at 7:41 pm

    Go Pro (owner of Cineform now) just made their 422 playback and encode codecs available for free (all but the 4444 / Alpha channel one thats $299). Folks can get it here. I have heard lots of good things about it.

    https://gopro.com/3d-cineform-studio-software-download/

    Tom Daigon
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    http://www.hdshotsandcuts.com
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  • Kevin Monahan

    September 28, 2011 at 8:47 pm

    Shane,
    Add your name to the feature request list for a proprietary codec. https://www.adobe.com/go/wish

    Cheers!

    Kevin Monahan
    Sr. Content and Community Lead
    Adobe After Effects
    Adobe Premiere Pro
    Adobe Systems, Inc.
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  • Kevin Monahan

    September 28, 2011 at 8:48 pm

    Great news about Cineform, Tom.

    Kevin Monahan
    Sr. Content and Community Lead
    Adobe After Effects
    Adobe Premiere Pro
    Adobe Systems, Inc.
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  • Tom Daigon

    September 28, 2011 at 9:13 pm

    Great news about Cineform, Tom.

    Kevin Monahan

    You know, I thought so to. Until I downloaded it and tried to convert something in AME…it crashed. Tried the same thing with Prores 422…it was fine. Then I tried to output something from AE…Cinform crashed. Tried the same thing with Prores 422…it was fine. Im not to impressed with Go Pro Studio codecs at this point to tell you the truth Kevin. I tried all these tests both booting my system in 32 then 64 bit (Snow Leopard). At this point Im sticking with Prores..it works! 😀

    Tom Daigon
    Avid DS / PrP / After Effects Editor
    http://www.hdshotsandcuts.com
    Mac Pro 3,1
    8 core
    10.6.8
    Nvidia Quadro 4000
    24 gigs ram
    Maxx Digita / Areca 8tb. raid
    Kona 3

  • Alex Udell

    September 28, 2011 at 10:06 pm

    You know….I’m not so sure that “Adobe needs a codec of it’s own.”

    Why muddy the water with yet another codec?

    It seems people have been able to make both Pro Res and DNXHD work with Premiere Pro already.

    Adobe should create yet another codec to compete as a standard?

    I’m not ruling it out…I’m just saying….while it’s nice to have something out of the box…until it’s widely adopted like those two are…you’re just an island again….and it’s harder to move media between shops…

    thoughts?

    Alex

  • Tom Daigon

    September 29, 2011 at 1:24 am

    A universal codec is what we need in the video industry. Unfortunately at the current moment Prores encoding is not available to PC users. So that lets that one out of the running.

    And I haven’t heard a lot about people mastering to DNxHD, more about people transcoding to it on the Avid platform.

    And after todays experience Im not to sure about Cineform.

    So that leaves us with…

    Tom Daigon
    Avid DS / PrP / After Effects Editor
    http://www.hdshotsandcuts.com
    Mac Pro 3,1
    8 core
    10.6.8
    Nvidia Quadro 4000
    24 gigs ram
    Maxx Digita / Areca 8tb. raid
    Kona 3

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