Adobe Premiere Pro CS4 & File Import

[Shar Chi]

To clarify, I work in the live events arena of the corporate world and unfortunately DVD is ubiquitous down here. I won’t mention company names cos u never know who’s looking, but they are often the biggest, and are across a very broad spectrum of industries. Now, if Premiere elements can handle / transcode vobs, it’s simply ridiculous that Pro can’t (or won’t), & I don’t care how you defend Adobe or justify it. Your workflow may well vary to mine, that’s fine & life goes on.

Bottom line, if Adobe premiere ever intends to be a serious contender in major production studios, it needs to co-operate with as many formats as possible, especially the ubiquitous ones, and stop coughing up feeble excuses or workarounds. Until then Avid & FCP will remain #1.

psst OMF…

[Tim Kolb]

[Shar Chi] “Bottom line, if Adobe premiere ever intends to be a serious contender in major production studios, it needs to co-operate with as many formats as possible, especially the ubiquitous ones, and stop coughing up feeble excuses or workarounds. Until then Avid & FCP will remain #1.”

Well…certainly your needs are legitimate for your uses…last I heard, neither Avid or FCP are capable of handling VOB files on the timeline, maybe that’s changed and I’m not aware of it…?

Whether or not ‘major’ production studios need VOB editing with any frequency may be a matter of opinion…

As far as OMF…yes, that would be a good addition for ‘major’ and even not-so-major production studios as switching from Avid (which conceived OMF) is a bear, even to FCP as OMF import/export is not quite seamless in all respects yet without Automatic Duck…of course, OMF is not an industry-conceived standard like AAF and MXF…which PPro supports very well.

‘Native’ MXF support for both P2 and XDcam probably being an area of supremacy for PPro as FCP is still re-wrapping and duplicating media in the case of MXF…though a new version of FCP is undoubtedly on its way…

If enough users ask for it, Adobe’s motivations aren’t that complicated…they need to add the features most users want to sell more units.

TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions,

CPO, Digieffects

[Mark]

Avid liquid will bring in VOB files…they will not show up in the import dialog box, but dragging them to the rack (bin) will bring them in. They can then be edited and brought back to DVD without re-encoding. Only certain audio types will work for this…. Some users have had issues.

As stated by others, it is not my preferred way of working (with encoded DVD material), but it gets the job done without reencoding, which is pretty cool. The timeline does need to be set to match the VOB files, so if you are working with other media, it will need to be rendered by the software (background rendering) before it will go to DVD.

Liquid is a pretty cool application that is somewhat of a workhorse, in that it offers tons of tools for the money….that said, i edit on Avid (Symphony and MC) and much prefer editing on those applications.

I plan on upgrading my CS2 suite to CS4. I use AE a lot, and can see me using PP and the Dynamic Link for more layered products. I also love to go to DVD using Adobe Encore. I am very excited about CS4.

Best regards

Mark

Mark Harvey
Senior Editor
Le Réseau des sports

[Tim Kolb]

Thanks Mark.

I suspected that some NLE somewhere brought in VOB files.

How do they stitch together? I’ve always had issues with the break points when I simply change the extension and bring them in as MPEG.

TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions,

CPO, Digieffects

[Mark]

Actually, it was like editing DV material…I had no issues editing it and laying it back to DVD..I was actually quite surprised.

Mark

Mark Harvey
Senior Editor
Le Réseau des sports