Adobe Premiere Pro 2.0 poor Rendering Performance hardware bound or deliberate

[Pinner]

I had the same setup as the p4 and currently have the E6700 with 2 gig of RAM and there is massive differance in render speed

[Blast1]

[noteapot] “I have a core 2 duo E6600, 2 gb memory and premiere pro rendering time is no better than my 2 year old 3.0 P4.”

Rendering what, timeline or encoding?

[noteapot] “Adobe make claims about multi processor and GPU support.”

GPU support is only for certain effects, you will find these listed under GPU in the Effects and Transitions menus.

[Steven L. gotz]

It is important to know if you mean “rendering” as in creating Preview Files, or “rendering” as in creating a new file via exporting.

The first is processor intensive and the second is disk intensive.

When I got my E6800 system I was unable to get a good score on the Premiere Pro benchmark. But after tweaking my disk drive settings, I blew past the competition.

The benchmark is here: https://mysite.verizon.net/wgehrke/ppbm

Steven
https://www.stevengotz.com

[John Baum]

Vegas is notoriously slow at rendering, though I haven’t tried the newest version.

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I am importing PSD stills (exported from Maya) and putting a fade in and fade out on them. No effects or after effects at this point – i’m already dreading that.

When i bring them in there is a big red bar across the top and i hit render to get rid of it. I have to say i’m not clear on what the render process is doing. I understand with effects of course but since i’m bringing in 1024*768 stills and exporting as 1024*768 sequence the same …..

The render seems to start well about a frame a second but after 30 or 40 frames or so slows down dramatically.

Actually my CPU is a 6700 also so if there is a render test file i would like to compare results – maybe it is some other issue.

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I downloaded the 30 day trial version of Vegas 7. Its yet another interface to learn (although fortunately similar to soundforge). The rendering issues i was having in Premiere do not seem to exist in Vegas. It loads the .psd sequence and renders them to wmv very quickly without any significant rendering overhead. Excluding editing or setup but including similar transitions the workflow time in Vegas is 50% of the time in Premiere Pro 2 . The primary reason is there is no timeline rendering required. Writing time to WMV is the same as using the microsoft encoder (fast). There is no write to flash in the Vegas demo version so i cant test that. For uncompressed AVI if i do a timeline render in Premiere first then the Vegas export .AVI render (to 1024 * 768 ) was about the same time as Premiere export.
Right now Vegas offers a significant workflow advantage because i dont need to do any timeline rendering. The .AVI rendered output from Vegas seems to be artifact free and the Premiere output is not. Because of this I still suspect i’m missing something in Premiere – but that said Vegas just loaded the .PSD video and it worked.

[Blast1]

What are you using for project setting in Ppro? A preset or custome settings?

[Mike Cohen]

how did you tweak your hard drive?

Mike

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Just as an update on this. I was very happy with Vegas 7 performance and rendering time. Was ready to buy. Unfortunately for some reason Vegas does not like more than one video track of 1024 * 768 in the timeline and crashes . If you do it all in one video track its ok. Sony say this is a known problem with larger than TV frame sizes- Unfortunately the current fix is dont do it.

So am sticking with Premiere for the time being but am still very disappointed with multi processor performance.
There are lots of claims being bandied about premiere multi-processor rendering performance but as far as i can see these are gained in the third party renderers only. Windows media and Apple mov rendering from Premiere are significantly faster on a quad processor but having run some tests with the standalone renderers they are even faster outside of Premiere. The best MP workflow with Premiere seems to be to render to AVI first and then use one of the standlone renderers to go from AVI to WMV/Mov.