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Brian Seegmiller
September 14, 2017 at 6:04 amAndy, didn’t you just have a long discussion telling us about using the right editing tool. In FCP X, Selection tool = no gaps. AKA using the magnetic timeline. Position tool = gaps likely. You know, like in PP.
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Andy Patterson
September 14, 2017 at 8:15 am[Brian Seegmiller] “Andy, didn’t you just have a long discussion telling us about using the right editing tool. In FCP X, Selection tool = no gaps. AKA using the magnetic timeline. Position tool = gaps likely. You know, like in PP.”
Thanks for proving my point for the tenth time Brian. I appreciate it : )
First: Don’t confuse my comment with my actual editing process. I simply pointed out that anybody new to FCPX could get gaps. I can also purposely create gaps and I admit it would be user error but gaps can happen. FCPX is not foolproof.
Second: I did not create a video for the world to see of myself using the wrong editing tool with FCPX and then blame my errors on FCPX repeatedly. Jesus did suffer from user error but he repeatedly blamed Premiere Pro. That is why I stated in the other thread if someone gets gaps using FCPX you are quick to blame the user. To prove my point you tried to blame me of user error when I simply made a comment. On the other hand if someone gets gaps using Premiere Pro you are quick to blame the NLE. My point has always been you must use the correct tools in all the NLE to get the desired result.
Third: I hope from now on you can spot user error on any NLE and not just FCPX. I also hope you will not confuse a comment with the actual editing process.
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Steve Connor
September 14, 2017 at 11:08 am[andy patterson] “Thanks for proving my point for the tenth time Brian. I appreciate it : )
First: Don’t confuse my comment with my actual editing process. I simply pointed out that anybody new to FCPX could get gaps. I can also purposely create gaps and I admit it would be user error but gaps can happen. FCPX is not foolproof.
Second: I did not create a video for the world to see of myself using the wrong editing tool with FCPX and then blame my errors on FCPX repeatedly. Jesus did suffer from user error but he repeatedly blamed Premiere Pro. That is why I stated in the other thread if someone gets gaps using FCPX you are quick to blame the user. To prove my point you tried to blame me of user error when I simply made a comment. On the other hand if someone gets gaps using Premiere Pro you are quick to blame the NLE. My point has always been you must use the correct tools in all the NLE to get the desired result.
Third: I hope from now on you can spot user error on any NLE and not just FCPX. I also hope you will not confuse a comment with the actual editing process.
“Is there any possible way we can just leave this particular subject alone now? It’s getting beyond tedious and it’s crossing into unrelated posts!!!
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Steve Connor
September 14, 2017 at 11:14 am[Bill Davis] “No Timeline gaps ( magneticism rocks) for 6 years.”
Really? you haven’t used the ‘P’ tool in 6 years?
For those of us who haven’t mastered FCPX enough to avoid gaps then you can also remove them all easily with the very powerful timeline index!
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Oliver Peters
September 14, 2017 at 11:44 am[Bill Davis] “We’ll see if us X folk get similar joy at the Creative Summit in 6 weeks.”
Are you expecting a sneak peak with a release later this year, like before? I certainly hope so. But, are you simply speculating? If so, would this be tied to macOS High Sierra or the iMac Pro?
Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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Herb Sevush
September 14, 2017 at 11:45 am[Bill Davis] “You really should have explored X a bit more Herb.”
The exploration I did do left me very impressed with many FCPX features. Ppro, and Legacy before it, are very far from perfect. Still if I envy anything about X it would be Auditions. That is something I would use on a regular basis that has no corolate in any other NLE.
[Bill Davis] “And the timeline index makes global transition removal a snap.”
I’m hoping there is more than a global removal, I’m hoping there will be a “remove all transitions in selected area,” as there was in Legacy. That’s the functionality I really want.
[Bill Davis] “I do hope we never do “confetti” timelines, tho, so no joy there.
“If your referring to the increased label colors, they don’t show up in the timeline, they are more like the color lables in OSX Finder – you can add a color box and assign it to certain properties – sequences are green, audio only clips blue, gfx are yellow – but they only show up in the media browser window and do not carry thru to the timelines in anyway. They’re helpful in visually organizing your assets, just as in the Finder window. Visual organization is a big thing for me, YMMV.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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Steve Connor
September 14, 2017 at 11:59 am[Herb Sevush] “[Bill Davis] “And the timeline index makes global transition removal a snap.”
I’m hoping there is more than a global removal, I’m hoping there will be a “remove all transitions in selected area,” as there was in Legacy. That’s the functionality I really want.”
Easily done in the timeline index
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Oliver Peters
September 14, 2017 at 12:07 pmI think I missed the part about shared projects. Like Team Projects but on SAN/NAS systems. Makes it more Avid-like for collaboration. Spelled out here:
https://www.premierebro.com/blog/premiere-pro-cc-2018-preview-5-must-know-new-features
Apple really needs to up its game and come up with a similar feature before many shops take X more seriously.
Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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Scott Witthaus
September 14, 2017 at 12:52 pm[Oliver Peters] “Makes it more Avid-like for collaboration. “
[Oliver Peters] “Apple really needs to up its game and come up with a similar feature before many shops take X more seriously.”
Why? To become more like Avid? An increasingly niche product? What good can come of that?
No, let’s hope Apple keeps focusing on a product that is fast, stable and works. One that can be expanded with approved plug-ins for those who need it, not bloating the core software. Focus on integrating Motion and Logic for the shops that DON’T need shared or multi-editor projects, which I would dare opine are the vast majority in the visual storytelling space. Zag, Apple, don’t zig with Adobe. 🙂
Scott Witthaus
Owner, 1708 Inc./Editorial
Managing Partner, Low Country Creative LLC
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Walter Soyka
September 14, 2017 at 1:08 pm[Scott Witthaus] ” One that can be expanded with approved plug-ins for those who need it, not bloating the core software.”
What value do you see in only allowing Apple-approved plugins?
Walter Soyka
Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live [link]
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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