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Adobe – IBC
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[Bill Davis] “Curious as to how this is different from the FCP X timeline history switching we’ve had since 1.0?
Isn’t this just storing projects (I guess “sequences” for Adobe folk) in available RAM and letting the editor navigate and cut and paste between them?”Man, are you completely confused! ☺
Premiere Pro projects = FCPX libraries (same as FCP “legacy”)
Premiere Pro sequences = FCPX projects (same as FCP “legacy”)Based on your description above, you could always do this in Premiere Pro and most every other NLE. That’s not what this feature is about.
[Bill Davis] “What am I missing here?
Did they do something different with the concept?”The “new” thing is the ability to have multiple projects open at once and work between them. And yes, you could always do this with FCPX libraries, as well as with FCP “legacy” projects. So, a “feature catch up” if you will. However, the difference is the ability to lock projects. So, an editor can have a master project open with write permission, but others open with read-only permission.
The other part of this is shared Team Projects for team and enterprise accounts. This is more Avid-like. Actually it works more closely to the way FCP7 worked with FC Server with a check-out/check-in process. However, it’s got a better conflict reconciliation method. But, these special-condition Team Projects are stored in the cloud, so that has pros and cons depending on your POV and needs.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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[Oliver Peters] “listens to and tests out new ideas with high-profile customers that you get new, advanced features. “
I hear that’s what happened when they were developing 3D text ☺
Seriously though I think what “Hollywood” Editors want feature wise may not be exactly the same things that most FCPX users want and I think Apple recognised this.
Next FCPX update imminent with HDR and AR features added perhaps?
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[Steve Connor] “I hear that’s what happened when they were developing 3D text ☺”
I think they were listening to Charlie on that one ☺
[Steve Connor] “I think what “Hollywood” Editors want feature wise may not be exactly the same things that most FCPX users want and I think Apple recognised this.”
We’ll have to disagree on that one. For example, Avid project sharing is something that benefits major feature films as well as small 5-man shops. In the case of Adobe, there are a number of advances that have come out of feature film projects, which have directly benefitted me as a small user. In the case of Apple, extensive support for ARRI Alexa and RED cameras certainly isn’t there to benefit the small user.
[Steve Connor] “Next FCPX update imminent with HDR and AR features added perhaps?”
Neither of which benefit small customers. But, if you were to add such features, which type of customer do you think would be a better test bed?
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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Project sharing is nice, but “remove all gaps” is closer to my heart, not to mention the 8 xtra label colors. Now if only I can get “remove all/selected transitions” I can die a happy man.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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You really should have explored X a bit more Herb.
No Timeline gaps ( magneticism rocks) for 6 years.
And the timeline index makes global transition removal a snap.I do hope we never do “confetti” timelines, tho, so no joy there.
Just teasing, obviously.
It looks like Premiere Pro drivers got quite a few IBC presents this year.
We’ll see if us X folk get similar joy at the Creative Summit in 6 weeks.
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[Bill Davis] “No Timeline gaps ( magneticism rocks) for 6 years.”
I can get what I call gaps (black no video) in FCPX pretty easy.
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Since FCPX has a different naming structure than Premiere Pro I thought I would clarify something.
Even with Premiere Pro CS 4.0 you could always import entire projects. You could import the whole project or just certain sequences. With CS 4.0 and even the Creative Cloud you can opt to just grab video files, images or sequences form other projects but all those assets just became part of the project you imported them into. You have been able to do many of the same things shown in the posted video since CS 4 (if not longer). The only thing new is that the original project it’s self is imported and not just the assets of that project. It is not a big deal for me but I think it will help with collaboration based workflows.
To clarify we have been able to bring assets from other projects like sequences, images and video clips into other projects for a long long time even if the project did not import.
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Looks like PP wants to be like FCP X.
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[Steve Connor] “Just like FCPX ☺
“Just like all the NLE’s!
Essentially you could do this through the media browser in some fashion already in PP, correct? (im pretty new to premiere and not using by choice but I think i opened someone sequence today and copied elements from it).
What’s missing in this video is the upcoming bin locking, which is kind of a big deal if you work on shared projects.
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Gabe Strong
G-Force Productions
http://www.gforcevideo.com
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