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  • Oliver Peters

    April 26, 2012 at 6:07 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “OK, so you’re good then, right? If you install FCPX, then each bay can use as many SAN Locations as they need in their bay. Also, since FCPX can reference .movs, the media can reside any any partition, just the Event/Project will be on any particular bay’s partition.”

    No. It seems that if I go to Add SAN Location and navigate to the volume where I have write permission, everything is greyed out. Might be how the FibreJet software controls things. I suspect Apple only tested this with Xsan, which is file and not volume-based. Thoughts?

    [Jeremy Garchow] “Yes, but you still can’t go from 23.98 to 29.97 like you can in FCP7, right? I use that feature all the time. Avid’s tape capture/accuracy is truly the gold standard. No argument there.”

    Haven’t actually checked that. The format is tied to the project in Avid, so when you change from one to the other it resets the card. This should all be fine in 1080, because these are both legal standards in the 1080 VTR world, but you may have P versus PsF issues to contend with.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Jeremy Garchow

    April 26, 2012 at 6:24 pm

    [Oliver Peters] “No. It seems that if I go to Add SAN Location and navigate to the volume where I have write permission, everything is greyed out. “

    Have you tried making a folder and pointing the SAN Location to that instead of the whole volume?

    The only requirements listed in the manual are: “The SAN location feature requires a SAN volume, such as an Xsan volume connected using the Fibre Channel Protocol (FCP).”

    Funny that you need FCP to connect FCP. Ha!

    [Oliver Peters] “Might be how the FibreJet software controls things. I suspect Apple only tested this with Xsan, which is file and not volume-based. Thoughts?”

    We use metaSAN which is file based, so that might have something to do with it. It also works over ethernet as well. I have not tried it on volume level as it’s not how it’s setup over here.

    Jeremy

  • Oliver Peters

    April 26, 2012 at 6:29 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “Have you tried making a folder and pointing the SAN Location to that instead of the whole volume?”

    There are plenty of folders on the volume. All is greyed out. This is a volume-based SAN using Command Soft’s FibreJet. Fibre Channel protocol. FWIW – all of the volumes mount with a hard drive icon, not a network icon (globe).

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Bill Davis

    April 26, 2012 at 6:36 pm

    Tony,

    Most of the “here’s how this works” stuff takes place next door in the FCP-X Techniques forum.

    This space is largely for arm wrestling, rambling screeds and low grade, seldom serious character asssasination.

    It’s quite fun, and sometimes something actually useful gets posted – but this is not so much a “practical” learning space.

    It’s more akin to Speakers corner in Hyde park in london – where on any given day – anyone can stand up and spout anything – and the kudos to brickbats ratio is directly proportional to the makeup of the crowd present at that moment in time.

    If you want to start threads in the Techniqus post and have people weigh in on how they arrange their workflow – feel free.

    “Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor

  • Bill Davis

    April 26, 2012 at 6:40 pm

    Andrew,

    Just a note of thanks for your postings.

    Clearly your focus is more on the code underpinnings of the software than most of us who are largely focused on the user interface.

    I appreciate the time you take to post here from that perspective and I always look forward to reading what you write here.

    “Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor

  • Craig Seeman

    April 26, 2012 at 6:52 pm

    [Bill Davis] “This space is largely for arm wrestling”

    It’s sort of the world wresting federation of NLEs forum . . . and then we fight over which moves should be illegal.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    April 26, 2012 at 6:58 pm

    [Craig Seeman] “It’s sort of the world wresting federation of NLEs forum . . . and then we fight over which moves should be illegal.”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAWoP1kncRE&t=9s

  • Andrew Richards

    April 26, 2012 at 7:06 pm

    [Bill Davis] “Clearly your focus is more on the code underpinnings of the software than most of us who are largely focused on the user interface.”

    I’m an engineer, not an editor. Once upon a time I wanted to be an editor, and I actually have my BA in Film. I quickly gravitated to the tech side though. Now my specialty is large-scale shared storage (StorNext/Xsan in particular). I’m interested in how FCPX might evolve into a collaborative facility tool, hence my earlier speculation. I want don’t want the death of Final Cut Server to be in vain!

    I’m not a developer, but I find that world fascinating. One of these days I’ll teach myself to code more than shell scripts.

    [Bill Davis] “I appreciate the time you take to post here from that perspective and I always look forward to reading what you write here.”

    And I spend waaaay to much time reading and posting in here!

    Best,
    Andy

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    April 26, 2012 at 7:30 pm

    [Andrew Richards] “The Project and Event database files are CoreData-based and leverage SQLite (one of the persistent data stores that CoreData can address). So there is some OS-level stuff that could be to blame for the problems we’ve seen reported, or it could be app-level stuff incorrectly calling CoreData. Or both. Only the dev team could know.

    One thing I find really interesting is that Lion added a new CoreData class (NSIncrementalStore) that looks like it could be used to point FCPX at shared Events and even shared Projects on a shared database like a SQL server.

    there you go see? – someone who actually honest to God knows what they are talking about.
    I bookmarked this reply – next time I bluff the database, I’ll sound more knowledgable like.

    https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos
    http://www.ogallchoir.net
    promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

  • Richard Herd

    April 26, 2012 at 7:44 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “If you need to open a Location on another machine, you simply release it from the current machine, and the other machine adds the Location. You don’t have to do anything in the Finder.”

    I was thinking if two editors were editing the same thing. (Mike is working on audio and Mari is working on picture.)

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