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  • Chris Harlan

    November 21, 2011 at 11:47 am

    [Herb Sevush] “Large general purpose post houses have been dying off for over ten years. This does not mean the post industry isn’t healthy.”

    Agreed. The revolution was a little more than a decade ago with the advent of competitive online NLEs. To compare the release of X to that is absurd.

  • Herb Sevush

    November 21, 2011 at 3:09 pm

    [Bill Davis] “Irrespective of anything else, you craft a lovely metaphor”

    Thanks Bill, was rather fond of it myself.

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  • Rafael Amador

    November 21, 2011 at 5:37 pm

    [David Roth Weiss] “Had Apple simultaneously released FCPX and the fully functional 64-bit FCS 4 most were expecting, how many of you would be paying attention to this forum?”
    Just look at the traffic that the “Legacy FCP Forum” still having and the traffic on the FCPX techniques.
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Bill Davis

    November 21, 2011 at 5:52 pm

    [Chris Harlan] “Agreed. The revolution was a little more than a decade ago with the advent of competitive online NLEs. To compare the release of X to that is absurd.”

    Unless the significant break from the “traditional and incremental” evolution of the NLE that FCP-X represents isn’t actually the important point in and of itself – but rather a sign of something more fundamental happening in how content may need to be created in the future.

    If so, you’re contention that this program isn’t a similar revolution is actually not on point.

    But there’s no way to tell early in the transformation. We’ll only know looking back in a decade or so.

    As always, time will tell.

    “Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor

  • Chris Harlan

    November 21, 2011 at 6:32 pm

    [Bill Davis] “Unless the significant break from the “traditional and incremental” evolution of the NLE that FCP-X represents isn’t actually the important point in and of itself”

    I don’t think there is anything significant about. NLEs have not be around long enough to have an evolution that is “traditional and incremental.”

    [Bill Davis] “- but rather a sign of something more fundamental happening in how content may need to be created in the future.”

    In the scheme of things it is just not that important an event. I mean, really–we are just talking about a tool to cut video with. X might be faster for some people, and slower for others. I know that you are hung up on its database as id it were one of the monoliths from 2001, but really, it ain’t magic.

    [Bill Davis] “But there’s no way to tell early in the transformation. We’ll only know looking back in a decade or so.

    You know what, when the first NLE rolled out it was immediately clear where the future was. You didn’t need a decade to figure out that it was revolutionary. All that took was a split second.

  • Mitch Ives

    November 21, 2011 at 7:51 pm

    [Herb Sevush] “[Bill Davis] “Irrespective of anything else, you craft a lovely metaphor”

    Thanks Bill, was rather fond of it myself.”

    I agree as well. Very clever.

    That’s the second one this week that I enjoyed. The other one was someone who posited that “watching the Democrats and Republicans argue over the budget was like watching two drunks argue over a bar tab on the Titanic”. Rather clever as well…

    Mitch Ives
    Insight Productions Corp.
    mitch@insightproductions.com
    http://www.insightproductions.com

  • Mitch Ives

    November 21, 2011 at 7:56 pm

    [Craig Seeman] “I think by this time next year FCPX will have a very complete “professional” feature set which, like any other NLE some will like and some won’t. There was no transition though.”

    Given that it took 5 months to get the titler fixed, I can’t be as confident as you. I say two years.

    Mitch Ives
    Insight Productions Corp.
    mitch@insightproductions.com
    http://www.insightproductions.com

  • Jamie Franklin

    November 21, 2011 at 10:03 pm

    meh

  • Walter Biscardi

    November 22, 2011 at 2:17 am

    [David Roth Weiss] “Had Apple simultaneously released FCPX and the fully functional 64-bit FCS 4 most were expecting, how many of you would be paying attention to this forum?”

    That never would have happened. X would have had to have been released as iMovie Pro to separate the two platforms.

    One had to die for the other to live. Hmmmm, I think there’s a good story in that line somewhere.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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