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  • A couple of Prores Issues

    Posted by Prad Senanayake on June 1, 2008 at 4:25 am

    My problem comes in two parts.
    Easy one first:
    I�ve recently captured and edited a project using the Prores 422 codec. The project has been graded and now I�m ready for export. Question is: The final product will be for broadcast so imp guessing I�ll hire a Digibeta deck but the client wants to see a DVD of it first..what would be the best workflow from HD Proress to an SD DVD? Am I better off exporting straight through Compressor from the timeline? I know this question may have been asked before so even a point in the right direction to a previous tut or post would be appreciated.

    Now the hard one:
    Some sections of the project had minor titles on them, which I comped in AE and kept at the same codec through the whole workflow..the came through fine out of color, and when also fine out of compressor as an M2V but for some weird reason when I author the DVD these sections turn out all muddy?! Any Ideas?

    Thankyou,
    Prad.

    Jeremy Garchow replied 17 years, 11 months ago 4 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Rafael Amador

    June 1, 2008 at 4:57 am

    [Prad Senanayake] “Am I better off exporting straight through Compressor from the timeline?”
    Hi Prad,
    If you export from the FC time-line you know that, even everything has been rendered, will be re-rendered. And if you choose a Double Pass compression, everything will be re-rendered twice.
    Can be very time consuming.

    [Prad Senanayake] ” fine out of compressor as an M2V but for some weird reason when I author the DVD these sections turn out all muddy?”
    The .m2v you bring to DVDSTP is the same that DVDSTP put in the disk. No re-compression. Only muxing. Can not be any difference at all.

    Mac OX 10.5.2-FC 6.02-QT 7.4.1
    G5 2x2Gh 4GbRAM-BlackMagic Extreme
    PMBP 17″Core2Duo 4GbRAM-AJA ioHD
    JVC DTV-17″
    SONY EX-1 . SONY PD170
    ..and always a big mess on top of the table.

  • David Roth weiss

    June 1, 2008 at 8:20 am

    [Prad Senanayake] “the came through fine out of color, and when also fine out of compressor as an M2V but for some weird reason when I author the DVD these sections turn out all muddy?! Any Ideas?”

    In the first paragraph you asked, “what would be the best workflow from HD Proress to an SD DVD?” Now you stating that you’ve made a DVD and its “all muddy,” but you didn’t tell us what steps you used to make that DVD. Since we weren’t there with you we can’t help if you don’t tell us what you did.

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

    POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™

    A forum host of Creative COW’s Apple Final Cut Pro, Business & Marketing, and Indie Film & Documentary forums.

  • Prad Senanayake

    June 2, 2008 at 8:31 am

    Hey guys

    Yeah my bad I should have specified. My worklflow has pretty much been this:

    -Capture and edit on Proress 422 HQ timeline.
    -Any composites and effects rendered out as single clips at Proress 422, affected in AE and the put back into to FCP timeline at same codec.
    -Send FCP timeline into color, bake, grade and spit out again.
    -Export FCP timeline into single .mov file. (Current settings)
    -Send .mov file to compressor; make .m2v with best quality 90mins preset.
    -Bring .m2v into DVDSP and spit out a DVD.

    Is this two many steps? Is there something I am missing out on? I seemed to have solved the muddy image issue. For some reason FCP liked my files imported from AE but as soon as they were rendered back out again through Compressor it decided to make them, (ONLY the AE clips) all muddy. Weird. I since re-rendered the files out again through FCP as Proress and this seemed to solve the problem.
    Sorry for all the confusion…guys. And thanks for the help
    Prad.

  • David Roth weiss

    June 2, 2008 at 9:44 am

    Your workflow is right on. Explain a bit better what got rid of the mud please, that’s a bit cryptic.

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

    POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™

    A forum host of Creative COW’s Apple Final Cut Pro, Business & Marketing, and Indie Film & Documentary forums.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    June 2, 2008 at 2:58 pm

    [Prad Senanayake] “-Capture and edit on Proress 422 HQ timeline. “

    What frame size, frame rate and field order is your timeline?

    And what frame size, frame rate and field order did you render out of AE? Sounds like you have a mismatch of field order somewhere, but that’s just a guess.

    Jeremy

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