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  • A Codec for both FCP Studio Pro 2 as well as Premier CS3?

    Posted by Michael Escher on June 21, 2008 at 6:31 am

    Hi Everyone!

    I have a client who has a client (you know how it is…) who needs 104 Mini DV tapes shot in HDV (I’m not sure of the resolution or aspect ratio) captured to a codec that can be used on both Final Cut Pro Studio 2 as well as on Premier CS3.

    I pride myself on my knowledge of FCP and it’s use, but even as I have Premier loaded on my computer, I’m sadly lacking in hands on use or knowing many of its technical aspects.

    I’ve found that most of the time that people ask for digitizing without asking for a specific codec are the sort that want the biggest, uncompressed files as possible. Since “it worked last time” and they don’t know any better, “let’s do it the same way.”

    I’d still like to offer them some alternatives so if you know of one or two codecs that are uncompressed and one or two that are compressed but are “lossless”, and that can be used “native” (i.e. no extra programs or plugins to buy) by both editing programs (FCP Studio 2 and Premier CS3) feel free to mention them.

    Or if not, let me know if I’m barking up the wrong tree.

    Once again, I want to thank you ahead of time, oh wise creativecow.net users for your help! I really appreciate it.

    All the best,

    Michael Escher
    Rancho Calamari Productions
    http://www.ranchocalamari.com
    Los Angeles, CA, USA, Earth

    Dave Martin replied 17 years, 7 months ago 6 Members · 7 Replies
  • 7 Replies
  • Shane Ross

    June 21, 2008 at 6:54 am

    Look at the SHEER codecs by BitJazz.

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Rafael Amador

    June 21, 2008 at 9:24 am

    I agree with Shane. Sheer can be your solution. Uncompress and makes the files a 55% of the Apple’s Unc.
    Rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Neil Sadwelkar

    June 21, 2008 at 11:20 am

    Before using Sheer, I’d make sure you can capture to this codec in real time. And the captured video Quicktimes have embedded Time code which is readable in Premiere Pro as well.

    Also, on FCP the Sheer codec may not support real-time for effects. Don’t know the status for Premiere Pro.

    Sure there may be documentation that clarifies both these, but 107 hours is 107 hours.

    Neil Sadwelkar

    FCP Editor, Mumbai, India.
    Completely PAL.

  • Rafael Amador

    June 21, 2008 at 11:39 am

    [Neil Sadwelkar] “‘d make sure you can capture to this codec in real time. And the captured video Quicktimes have embedded Time code which is readable in Premiere Pro as well.

    Hi Neil,
    With an AJA or BM you can capture Sheer in RT. When you install the codec, you get in FC all the easy set-ups ready. You get also the TC. If PP is able to read QT TC, should be no problem.

    [Neil Sadwelkar] ” Sheer codec may not support real-time for effects.”
    You are right. As any other third part codec have no RT support in FC. Is one of the things I wish the FC developers would do.
    Cheers,
    Rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Steve Eisen

    June 21, 2008 at 4:19 pm

    A friend of a friend of a friend of mine (you know how it is…) has told me that 104 mini DV tapes shot in HDV equals hours and hours of footage. Before capturing all of the tapes, I would very carefully analyze the footage and capture only the necessary amount you need for the project.

    How many hours are in a day? My memory recalls 24. I hope you have a few months a free time to work on this project.

    FYI, you can edit native HDV in both FCP and Premiere CS3.

    Steve Eisen
    Eisen Video Productions
    Board of Directors
    Chicago Final Cut Pro Users Group

  • Shane Ross

    June 21, 2008 at 4:37 pm

    First off, HDV and DV have the SAME data rate. Roughly 13.6GB/s. So if you capture as HDV or as DV it would take up the same amount of space.

    Believe it….or not (add jack Pallance inflection)

    Now, I’m torn, because as an editor I want access to ALL the footage I can get. On the other hand, 104 hours is a LOT, so some selective weeding might be appropriate. Know the theme of your piece…that helps.

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Dave Martin

    September 25, 2008 at 3:33 pm

    How about the AVID dnx codec which Apple wrote ProRes to compete with?

    Dave Martin

    – MacPro – MacBook Pro –

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