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A bug is a bug is a bug (or not)
Posted by Kelly Griffin on April 7, 2011 at 6:30 pmHere’s an ignorant question: I’ve got a brand new system with Vegas 10, latest version, all drivers everywhere most current with everything.
I STILL have this “undo” crash (Vegas dies with any CTRL-Z or selected Undo), have gone through a few rounds of trouble tickets with Sony, and they just scratch their heads and wish me well.
I’ve also got this ongoing audio issue where a track will play partially through and then suddenly play something from some other track somewhere.
My question is: Assuming there are lots of you using Vegas10, version “C” now, why wouldn’t we all be getting the same bugs?
Just wondering how/why I’m so special…
Kelly Griffin replied 15 years, 1 month ago 4 Members · 4 Replies -
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John Rofrano
April 7, 2011 at 7:07 pm[Kelly Griffin] “Just wondering how/why I’m so special…”
That’s why people but Mac’s. I’m not kidding. Every darn PC is special and reacts differently than every other PC. A while back one of us built a system that was extremely stable from the Intel D975XBX2 motherboard and posted their components. I bought the same components and built it and it was just as stable. Lots more people did the same and every one of us had a stable system. I’m still using that system today and it’s one of the main reasons that I haven’t bought a Core i7 yet. The old QuadCore system I have now is just so stable I don’t want to replace it.
Anything can make a difference. The motherboard, the memory modules you use, the graphics card, the sound card, just about anything. I like sticking with Intel motherboards and my next build will probably be an Intel. I’ve used GigaByte and ASUS and always had stability problems. There is something about using an Intel processor with an Intel motherboard that just “works”.
So the reason that no one has your problem is because no one has your PC. Then add to that whatever software you have installed and it adds another layer of complexity. I’ve learned to stay away from intrusive software like the “Nero” suite years ago. It hijacks your DirectX video filters and can cause havoc. Keeping a clean editing workstation is imperative for a stable environment. AND buying a “workstation” and not a “home computer” is another key factor. Workstations are usually build with better quality parts which is why they (and Mac’s) cost more but you truly get what you pay for.
I’m not saying that there aren’t bugs in Vegas that need to be fixed. I’m just pointing out why it so hard for Sony to recreate them and fix them.
~jr
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Stephen Mann
April 7, 2011 at 7:32 pmCTRL-Z crashing is usually a memory problem. Not necessarily a bad memory, it could also be a bad driver that has invaded some of the memory that CRTL-Z needs to use.
Run Prime95 to torture test your RAM, then DriverDetective to check for driver updates.
The free program: Prime95, available at https://files.extremeoverclocking.com/file.php?f=103 will torture test your PC. If you have bad RAM or a heat sensitive component, this program will find it. While you may not be overclocking, Vegas is very processor intensive – more than Premiere. If you have a PC on the edge of stability, Prime95 will push your PC hard. If you can run Prime95 for an hour, then your PC hardware is probably not the problem.
If you have a problem driver, I recommend running Driver Detective from https://www.drivershq.com/ (Actually a good plan is to run Driver Detective periodically. I doesn’t do anything to your installed drivers unless you tell it to.)
Steve Mann
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Nigel O’neill
April 8, 2011 at 4:04 amKelly
I have had similar issues of media ‘swapping out’, but with video and audio, always in the same place, always with the same footage. It has happened a couple of times on 1 wedding but with entirely separate projects although both use nested vegs, but both use different source media. e.g. whilst the bride is getting ready, and then I nest the veg file to create a highlights project. The bridge getting ready ‘project’ is OK, but the highlights project has the gremlins. Am I making sense?
My workaround was to edit and render the project without restarting the project. I rendered the same project with ambient audio plus another with the audio overlay added, so if I had to make changes, I was not starting all over again.
Are you nesting vegs? If so, we might be onto something… .
Intel i7 920, 12GB RAM, ASUS P6T, Vegas Pro 10 (x32/x64), Windows 7 x64 Ultimate, Vegas Production Assistant 1.0, VASST Ultimate S Pro 4.1, Neat Video Pro 2.6
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Kelly Griffin
April 8, 2011 at 4:31 amNo (Nigel), I’m not nesting projects (yet… still just getting my head around the whole Vegas experience in the first place). I can get the audio weirdness just listening to a single clip (er, event) on an otherwise empty timeline.
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