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Jeremy Garchow
July 16, 2016 at 2:15 amI’ve pointed out the XML bugs with ‘synchronized’ clips.
Titles sometimes lose fonts randomly.
Relinking stills somehow corrupts the timeline instances of the files and their placement. It’s this problem here: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6042545?tstart=0
Relinking issues with clips that shouldn’t have relinking issues forcing relinking out of the app which means you may lose information in the XML jockey.
Playing clips with silent channels of audio sometimes slows the entire app to a halt.
Some audio channels are reported incorrectly in both FCPX and compressor in QT movies.
The showstopper is the XML bugs though. Those are hard to workaround, as well as the audio channel misreporting.
There’s also a long list of usability improvements that I’m sure most of us could agree upon.
Although, a lot of slow down issues have been solved by moving back to AJA products for video out. I should have never left.
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Dean Neal
July 16, 2016 at 4:11 amCorrect – I deal with Apple Store’s Business unit, they are great and often offer some discounts on purchasing through them. It makes sense to ‘face up’ their stock in shop for the average consumer – which gravitates to the i-Devices.
Dean Neal…
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Steve Connor
July 16, 2016 at 10:35 am[Jeremy Garchow] “[Bill Davis] “Clearly to a business such as Apple – one of the largest companies on the globe – there is a major concern with message discipline so the company doesn’t have to contend with the fallout of the right hand saying A and the left hand saying B. One extremely effective solution to that that is to say as little as possible. We might not like that. But it’s proven to work for them. When they do release things, generally it’s fresh news. ”
But this is a company who’s stock price goes down when they didn’t announce what the analysts though they would, yet they continue to do public live streamed announcements.
An NDA for a piddly NLE and not one little peep of it anywhere?
Either Apple is scrubbing the internet of any mentions, or whatever was shown wasn’t all that great. In which case, where are the bug fixes?”
The mighty Apple will deliver something in their own good time, no point in moaning about it, let’s all count ourselves lucky when they do 🙂
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Tim Wilson
July 16, 2016 at 6:40 pm[Oliver Peters] “I don’t believe they have been implementing user requests, except where those already coincide with the design team’s established goals.”
This has ALWAYS been the case, or at least it was under Jobs. It was the one consistent theme in his career. He laid it out at length in a 1985 interview, going so far as to say that everything that was wrong with his competitors could be traced to their reliance on customer input. He reiterated it a number of times along the way, including a 2008 profile in Forbes, where he said that customer input is worthless because customers don’t know what’s coming. He does, said he.
I’m not saying that anyone on the pro apps team “doesn’t care” about customers or their input. That’s clearly not the case. They do care. But I think that their degrees of freedom to implement customer-driven changes are constrained by design practices that are etched in stone in Apple’s DNA.
Tim Cook is generally much more customer-focused, so their approach could change, but really, why should they change a thing? They take their successes in any area as a ratification of every one of their policies in all areas. There’s plenty of reasons that people have left the Apple fold over the years, but if there’s more than 5 or 6 who stomped off because Apple plays its cards close to the vest, I’d be shocked.
Apple customers reward Apple for being Apple. And that includes this.
[Steve Connor] “The mighty Apple will deliver something in their own good time, no point in moaning about it, let’s all count ourselves lucky when they do :)”
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Darren Roark
July 17, 2016 at 12:33 am[Jeremy Garchow] “The showstopper is the XML bugs though. Those are hard to workaround, as well as the audio channel misreporting. “
Is this happening when going from FCP X to another app? Or going from FCP X directly back to FCP X?
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Jeremy Garchow
July 17, 2016 at 12:56 pm[Darren Roark] “happening when going from FCP X to another app? Or going from FCP X directly back to FCP X?
“https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/344/43081
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Misha Aranyshev
July 19, 2016 at 3:54 amFCP handling 24@25 film workflow was implemented after Apple was presented with a very comprehensive white paper and petition with a long list of signatures. This played out very well when DI became widespread.
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Phil Lowe
August 16, 2016 at 11:32 amBeen using X for about a month now editing news packages. Last couple I’ve had to do were cut under intense deadline pressure but made slot. Using my Avid shortcut keys has really made the transition smoother than it otherwise would’ve been, but audio continues to be a major league PITA! So if there are any X developers reading this, PLEASE give us a bona fide audio mixer instead of the garbage pan & volume slider in the inspector!
There’s nothing I’ve done in X that I hadn’t ever been able to do in Avid just as quickly, (except overlays when compositing which I have had absolutely no use for in my news workflow so far) and audio mixing (which is much faster and easier in Avid.)
As far as any updates go? I don’t use X at home except to trim up 4K clips for sale on Shutterstock, so no update threatens that workflow (unless they take UHD support out of the program.) As to whether any update will be installed by the admins at work is a different issue. Any threat of workflow interruption would potentially cause an update to be ignored.
I can only think of one other update I’d really like to see: give us audio and video tracks! 😉
Canon XF-300, Canon 5DMkIII, Canon 7D MkII, Avid Media Composer 7.05, Adobe CC 2015, iMovie Pro.
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Scott Witthaus
August 16, 2016 at 11:46 am[Phil Lowe] “sing my Avid shortcut keys has really made the transition smoother than it otherwise would’ve been, but audio continues to be a major league PITA! So if there are any X developers reading this, PLEASE give us a bona fide audio mixer instead of the garbage pan & volume slider in the inspector! “
This is the mistake you make: trying to make X work like Avid. Learn the software the way it was designed, not based on what you know from traditional track-based softwares.
Full mixer for news packages? Why? Seems to me you can do those 1:15’s all day long without a mixer?
Scott Witthaus
Senior Editor/Post Production Supervisor
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Phil Lowe
August 16, 2016 at 11:56 am[Scott Witthaus] “This is the mistake you make: trying to make X work like Avid. Learn the software the way it was designed, not based on what you know from traditional track-based softwares.”
Not a mistake if I get the job done. And I get the job done. And yes, I do want an Avid/FCP7/Premiere CC-type audio mixer, complete with track patching and clip-ganging. I realize leaving a real audio mixer out of the X workflow is probably less threatening to kids editing cat videos for youtube, but an honest-to-goodness mixer doesn’t threaten me in the least.
Canon XF-300, Canon 5DMkIII, Canon 7D MkII, Avid Media Composer 7.05, Adobe CC 2015, iMovie Pro.
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