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A bridge too far?
We are now several months past Apple’s preview of the next FCP X. The update itself is long overdue. So, it would seem that there’s a lot if work going into it, with the potential to introduce a little or a lot of compaibility issues. Maybe as bad as 7 to 10.0.0, but likely more like the shift to 10.1.
Pure speculation, but assuming this is to be the case, will this be too much change (and not in features) in a few short years for FCP X users to stay in the fold?
Meanwhile, a lot more ongoing development on the Adobe and Avid side, as well as Blackmagic Design poised to eat everyone’s lunch.
Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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For most Final Cut Pro X updates, the reaction is “not many changes after waiting for so long” then “that’s new, why didn’t they include that in the release notes” and – for some people: “I didn’t think that update was a big deal, but now I think my day to day editing experience has improved a lot.”
As regards why we are waiting, although the ProApps team might have wanted to release the next update on the fifth anniversary of X (on the 1-year anniversary of the FCPX Creative Summit event – which included a visit to Final Cut HQ), my guess is that they have been countermanded by Apple – the wider company.
Apple PR: “We’ve got new Mac hardware coming out that has various new features that support a range of obscure uses for high-end Macs”
Apple Marketing: “Any TV/mainstream print/mainstream website journalist can understand that video editing needs a lot of power. Let’s say that these new Macs make 4K/8K/VR/AR much better using a special new version of Final Cut”
ProApps team: “With our established proxy workflow, we support 4K editing on the new entry-level MacBook”
Apple PR: “That doesn’t help explain why we make the Mac Pro/Mac mini Pro/MacBook Pro ‘Pro‘ – Final Cut will make the message clearer. And delaying the update a few more months will give you lot the chance to make it even bigger!”@Alex4D
PS: Join me and some proper Final Cut Pro X and Motion superstars at the FCPX Creative Summit 2016. This year in late October!
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[Alex Gollner] “….Apple PR: “That doesn’t help explain why we make the Mac Pro/Mac mini Pro/MacBook Pro ‘Pro‘ – Final Cut will make the message clearer. And delaying the update a few more months will give you lot the chance to make it even bigger!””
I hate to say it, but what you described in that scene is not the “buttoned up” company that we imagine Apple to be, but rather one that’s at least as messed up as Avid. 🙂
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
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[Oliver Peters] “We are now several months past Apple’s preview of the next FCP X. The update itself is long overdue.”
I say make it right before you release. Perhaps Apple actually learned from the CF that was the first release of X (yes Bill, it was a CF) and is making sure it works. Pure speculation as well.
[Oliver Peters] “ongoing development on the Adobe and Avid side”
I upgraded to MC8.6 and opened it, then closed it. Nothing to see for my workflow there. Avid has it’s niche and is justifiably playing to that niche. Premiere is, well, Premiere. Enough said, in my humble opinion only.
I am not sure what everyone is “waiting for” in terms of the next “big” release. I am crunching along almost every day on X and not really missing that “one big thing” that maybe the next release might have. It works great for my workflow today. When I hit a wall where it doesn’t, then I will start gnashing my teeth and pulling my hair for the next “big” release. As usual, my humble opine only.
[Oliver Peters] ” Blackmagic Design poised to eat everyone’s lunch.
“Do tell.
Scott Witthaus
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[Scott Witthaus] “I am not sure what everyone is “waiting for” in terms of the next “big” release. I am crunching along almost every day on X and not really missing that “one big thing” that maybe the next release might have. It works great for my workflow today. “
But that’s precisely the point. We now know there is an update underway. What happens if it disrupts your workflow in a significant way?
[Scott Witthaus] “Do tell.
“It’s a viable editor now and it’s free for the needs of most.
Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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[Oliver Peters] “So, it would seem that there’s a lot if work going into it, with the potential to introduce a little or a lot of compaibility issues. Maybe as bad as 7 to 10.0.0, but likely more like the shift to 10.1.”
Jeez Oliver, some classic FUD there dude. 😉 What if there’s a lot of changes, but it seamlessly updates stuff? Just as likely here is speculation land. The shift to 10.1 wasn’t bad at all if you read the instructions…
[Oliver Peters] “will this be too much change (and not in features)”
Again you’re assuming no really new features. Maybe they’re going down the list of every requested feature and putting them all in? 😉
[Oliver Peters] “Meanwhile, a lot more ongoing development on the Adobe and Avid side”
Really? I have ’em both and they’re certainly not passing FCP X by -if that was your implication – at all.
[Oliver Peters] “as well as Blackmagic Design poised to eat everyone’s lunch.”
It’s a nice NLE, but other that the fact it’s bolted on to the coloring/finishing bits of Resolve, nothing special. The price point is nice though, I’ll give you that. 🙂
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Blackmagic Design poised to eat everyone’s lunch.
[Oliver Peters] “It’s a viable editor now and it’s free for the needs of most.”Have you used it enough to know it’s bug free and full featured enough to be “viable.”
Not doubting, I get asked all the time what NLE I would recommend if they don’t want to shell out $300. Or work on a PC.
Do you really see it as a deal changer in professional circles? Or just another option?
How well does it play with lesser computer specs?
Mac Pro, macbook pro, Imacs (i7); Canon 5D Mark III/70D, Panasonic AG-HPX170/AG-HPX250P, Canon HV40, Sony Z7U/VX2000/PD170; FCP 6 certified; FCP X write professionally for a variety of media; teach video production in L.A.
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[Charlie Austin] “Jeez Oliver, some classic FUD there dude. 😉 What if there’s a lot of changes, but it seamlessly updates stuff? Just as likely here is speculation land. The shift to 10.1 wasn’t bad at all if you read the instructions…
“Sure. It’s just a speculative “what if” question. I did the shift to 10.1 on a large project and it was a disaster. And yes, I read the instructions. I stayed on a separate boot drive with 10.0.9 for well over a year just to get the damn film done.
Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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[Oliver Peters] “And yes, I read the instructions. I stayed on a separate boot drive with 10.0.9 for well over a year just to get the damn film done.
“Fair enough. Also i didn’t mean to imply that you didn’t RTM. 🙂 For me was fine, but admittedly not long form stuff.
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[Craig Alan] “Have you used it enough to know it’s bug free and full featured enough to be “viable.”
“Not yet. Although I’m not sure any modern NLE fits those criteria. For me, audio is the weakest part with Resolve.
[Craig Alan] “Do you really see it as a deal changer in professional circles? Or just another option?
“I suspect only an option.
[Craig Alan] “How well does it play with lesser computer specs?
“1080HD ProRes is OK on an older Mac Pro. However, with the mixer panel open, playback to the viewers would stutter.
Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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I know that “a bridge too far” is the question…but is there any such thing anymore? It seems like there was a bridge too far a few years ago. X in itself for some people, but for more I think, the combination of X and the trash can. Indeed, some non-X users took that opportunity to leave Mac altogether.
But now? Disappointment over a late, lackluster almost-update is the most that Apple users can realistically hope for anymore. LOL With the silent (or not so silent) prayer, “Please don’t burn my favorite stuff to the ground.” LOL
“Again.” LOL
Mostly kidding, but that’s the flip side of the question. Barring Apple dropping macOS in favor of Windows or something outrageous, here, within the real world we’ve been living for the past 5 years, having come this far, can Apple honestly do anything to lose you for good?
I’m betting no. Even if you say yes. LOL If you ain’t gone now, you ain’t goin’ nowhere. Right?
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