9 Minute Video is 880MB? Normal?

[Jerry Hofmann]

What format of HD are you working with? HDV? or?

Are you compressing the file before you upload?

Upload speeds are rarely as fast as the download speeds too… you might look into a faster connection…

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[Gary Askham]

That sounds like a ProRes file. And it is normal for it to be that large.

You see when editing video it works better to work with large, high quality files. Yes they take up more space but hard drives are pretty cheap nowadays… it’s always been an issue when dealing with video which is why it is only recently as technology has become more available that people have been able to work with these files.

Luckily Apple have included an application in the Final Cut Studio suite to help you out called Compressor. You still have to edit with your large video files but when it comes to creating deliverables you drop your large videos into Compressor and they come out smaller. There’s even a YouTube preset (although I tend to use the Ipod/iPhone presets as they’re pretty universally accepted by sites like YouTube and Vimeo too).

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[Jeff Greenberg]

[Rachel Corinne] “he video is in HD. Firstly, should the size be 880MB, or do you think I did something weird in Final Cut Pro that made the file size huge?”

Rachel, that’s (conservatively) small. Uncompressed HD runs 6 gigs a minute, so I’d expect 50 or so gigs for 9 mins.
It’s likely you’re working with a compressed HD – ProRes, especially if it was from a DSLR camera.

While there are formats that make it even smaller – FCP doesn’t do so hot with heavily compressed footage at this time. The general workflow, if the source video was h.264 is to transcode it to ProRes – a larger file that FCP doesn’t have to work so hard with.

If you’re uploading to youtube, Gary is dead on – there’s a great Youtube preset. Select your sequence, File menu> Send to Compressor. Pick the youtube setting and compress.

Separate from all of this is your upload speeds. Go to speedtest.net and actually measure your upload and download speeds.
I guesstimate that your speed is around 50kb/s – it sounds like you have a slow DSL connection. So yes, it’s conceivable that it might take 5 hours.

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[Ryan Atkins]

For a ProRes HD file, that sounds about right. It’s a lot different then standard def, I know.

As for uploading to YouYube, you should probably compress a little. If you have a huge file, chances are, your bitrate is pretty high too. YouTube plays 1080p at an average of 5 mb/s. If you compressed to 10 mb/s or even 8, then you’ll get a lot smaller “Web-Ready” file, and your upload time will also decrease.

YouTube will be converting and compressing your file to Flash anyway. It’s normally not great to show people a compressed version of your work, but when we’re talking about the web…you pretty much have to. Internet connections simply can’t play high bitrate files, especially ProRes files, so compressing is necessary

So I say compress first to an H.264 8-10 mb/s and do a reupload. It should look just fine on YouTube.

[Keith Greenfield]

Oh yes, you have a native HD file there. Right off your timeline sounds like.
As the guys say, drop it into compressor and give it a squeeze before uploading,
I use Vimeo an alternative to Utube. It’s a smaller ‘respectful community of creatives who like sharing their work’. Some great learning areas in there. Free to join.
Give it a go, has all the functionality of Utube without the clutter and the pond life.

My best set up for Compressor: but read on to the end.
h.264 640×360/AAC 44.1 k , you can leave it native HD frame size if you wish, but its the web, keep it simple. 640×360 is OK for most. https://vimeo.com/20543974

Depending on traffic takes around 3min per min to upload then maybe a wait of around 30min before its available.

However: after saying all that I have found that the h.264 setting wont play if you access Vimeo via a smartphone. Blaberry/iPhone/iPod touch etc. Just fine on everything else. Doh.

I did quick test and noticed that plain vanilla mp4 works on all. https://vimeo.com/21547920

I tried using the Apple Devices – iPhone preset in Compressor and because it creates an .m4v file Vimeo spits it out.
I am thinking it may see it as ‘Apple protected’ format. Odd…its still an h264 under the cover. Any ideas anybody?

[Ryan Atkins]

Keith, good input.

Doesn’t Vimeo convert any video uploaded to Flash? So then, would it matter what file type you give it? I’ll try an mp4 next time I upload, but I do believe that unless you have a Vimeo Pro account, your videos will not play on mobile devices. Any thoughts?

Also, my encoding settings are as follows:

[Keith Greenfield]

well no…I think. If was was Flash then that would not work on Apple iPhone/iTouch. ??
However there is a Flash Player fall back option in Vimeo so may do both.
If you join and can download the file is …mp4. Now what’s that all about.

[Aaron Getting]

Just a quick note about upload bandwidth. I realize that this thread is 3 years old but the info is still relative.
If you upload videos frequently from home, then you should consider getting a fiber optic connection rather than DSL. The upload speeds are much better and closer to download speeds when using a fiber optic connection that goes to your home. If this isn’t an option for you, there is an alternative… Cellular data networks of both 3g and 4g have great upload speeds. If you have a large data plan then use it to upload videos. I tether my smartphone to my computer whenever I do a video upload and it is much better than what I can get on the best DSL package. Do a speedtest on your phone to verify what I am saying.