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8mm pulldown/up
Being the zeitgeists of high-def that our company is … I
purchased a Braun Nizo 3048 Super 8 camera yesterday. Lovely
looking camera, actually.My question: the Nizo does 18/24fps with (I think, it hasn’t
arrived yet) over- and under-cranking opportunities. With
regards to any pulldown/up, how does After Effects (7)
perform when working with 8mm stuff?Thanks in advance,
Darren.x-gf.com
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if you’re talking about adding a pulldown to bring 24fps film up to broadcast, that’s not a problem for ae. however if you are talking about pal, the difference between 24fps and 25fps is so slight i would just interpret the footage as 25fps in ae and work with it at that rate.
if you wanted to bring it up to 29.97 for ntsc, you would interpret the footage as 23.976, work with it at that rate in ae, but then set the render setting to render at 29.97 with fields and a pulldown.
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Talk to the guys doing the film digitizing.
If you shoot at 24 fps, they might add pulldown to bring it up to 29.97 easily, then AE can remove the pulldown easily. Or you could just work at 29.97 in AE.
If you shoot at 24, and they can digitize at 24 without adding pulldown, then you’ll work at 24 in AE, and add pulldown in the render.
If you shoot at 18, you’ll have to talk to them about options. There’s no simple way to do 18-to-2997 pulldown in AE. If retaining the look of the original (not too fast) is important, you might have to add intermediate frames in AE using Twixtor (gotta buy it) to bring it up to 24 before adding pulldown.So talk to the guys doing the digitizing before shooting at 18fps or other frame rates.
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You’ll only get pulldown that you can effectively separate if your film is sent through a real telecine or film scanner. If it’s just one of those things that basically projects the image into a DV camera you’ll get nothing you can separate into frames. The reason is that the shutter in the projector must be synced exactly to the video and the frame rates must be exactly on. Most of the 8mm I’ve seen transfered to video was impossible to separate.
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All good advice, cheers.
A couple of clarifications:
– We’re UK based, so if it’s pulled anywhere, it’ll be to 25p
PAL.
– The stock will be processed and telecine’d professionally.
(If we’re up north it’ll be The Finishing School, Leeds; if
we’re down south it’ll be The Widescreen Centre, London).Would be interesting to hear from anyone with any 8mm/AE
experience, although I doubt there’s many around.Cheers,
Darren.x-gf.com
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