8gigs for $1800 vs. 30 for $1…hmm

[Noah Kadner]

Those look tasty indeed but they’re vaporware until the end of 2006.

Noah

[Vincent Rice]

Well, when they actually exist perhaps you could ask again then.

[Chris Baldwin]

Sure these won’t be around for awhile, but what do the charts have the P2’s getting up to by the summer of 06? 32 gig? still at $1800? even if they are $500 then, I just would like some type of compent from Jan or someone at Panasonic about why they are trying to develop a media that will never be able to compete with the price point that the HVC groups have already established?

Chris Baldwin
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[Paul Harb]

I tend to agree, the P2 cards seem like a dead end unless there is some huge leap in the next 6-12 months….

[Noah Kadner]

Yep- welcome to the wonderful world of electronics. There’s always faster, quicker and cheaper right around the corner. Question is, what will be ready for your shoot today?

[Brian Deviteri]

I read about these things in a PC magazine a few months back. The main drawback that I remember reading was that aren’t expected to have fast speeds (something that the P2 cards will capable of), nor are they expected to have the reliability (something else that the P2 card will be capable of, hopefully).

I’m still looking to find the “Sandisk” or other manufacturer version of P2 cards. Look at Sony Memory Sticks… Sandisk makes the same speeds and faster speeds at a pretty decent price drop compared to the Sony brand versions. I’d expect some tape manufacturers (ie, Fuji) to come out with some P2 media cards that are fractions of the price and possibly even greater capacity. Though, we all know this probably will not happen right away. But give it 2-3 months and someone will start making them.

[Jp Driscoll]

Isn’t the holographic media recorded in a translusent gell? That doesn’t sound very reliable to me. It also sounds like something that would not write properly with one good bump. And how will temperature affect it? If it’s real cold (-30F is a good winter’s day here in Fargo.) does the gell get thicker thus making it harder for the lasers to write properly? Sounds risky. I’ll stick with tried and true technology for a few years until all the “what if’s” are answered. At least SD cards are proven to handle the elements.

JP Driscoll

WDAY TV
Fargo, ND

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[Nick B]

It would not be easy to put the drive inside the camera i suspect,

You have to trust that Panasonic are using P2 because they genuinely believe that it is the best way to record data in the camera they are not trying to rob you of money on a P2 scam !

[Barry Green]

If someone wants to make a firewire-streaming version of the holographic drive, the Panasonic camera will most definitely work with it. The holographic system may not be rugged enough or reliable enough for field use, but it could be an excellent tiny-cost way to archive footage! An hour of footage at 720/24p archived on a $1 gel (or whatever it is…) heck, that’d make shooting P2 *cheaper* than shooting HDV…

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[Brian Deviteri]

that’s a really good idea… they are small enough too, so they’d be perfect for archiving if they are reliable. any price guestimates at how much the drives will run? will they be external devices? I’m thinking that I could use a few of these to hand to a client after a shoot with all the footage, like many of them want a tape at the end of the day, instead hand them a card or two. It’s an interesting scenario for data management and distribution, but I will not use it for acquisition.