8 hour rendierng, not even a third done, are you kidding me?

[Kell Smith]

Thanks guys. And David, in response to your post, yeah, that does make it more difficult. I”d be happy to upload you a clip.

I’ve corrected it somewhat and it looked better when rendered out but it still pretty dark.
The file outputted was a full hd – 27 gig – I figured it would be quicker to upload it to google drive than to export a smaller one and upload that. Not so much. Put it on at 11 this morning and it is still only 80% uploaded and it’s 8 pm.
This has been what it’s been… basically sit and wait, all day, then another day, and so on, for anything to get rendered, exported or uploaded. it’s so frustrating to just sit there for hours on end watching things export.
I’m going to have to find a solution to these long render/encode etc times or get more realistic about what they will be so as not to overpromise.

I did offer to return their money, told them of the technical issues, offered to edit what I have, took responsibility and that’s all you can really do. Meanwhile they are reviewing it.. Or rather, will be if it ever uploads. Is google drive always this ridiculously slow?

9 hours to upload to google drive. 20 hours to render to after effects. 8 hours to output the file. Some kid with an iphone could have had those clips up in 20 minutes.
Nuts.

[David Baud]

Yes I can look at your clip when it is ready, but it would be better if you upload the original file from your camera… it would be easier for me to tell you what can be done or not… if you send me a clip already processed, it would be hard for me to dissociate what you have done to it from what is the original clip.

David Baud
Post & VFX
KOSMOS PRODUCTIONS
Denver – Paris
http://www.kosmos-productions.com

[Kell Smith]

Thank you David,
I did not see your post – I spun the discussion off into another thread. BUt it was such a hectic week it was easy to miss things.Just wanted to pop back in after all this time – first chance – and thank you guys for your suggestions. I was not really able to save the footage but it was improved somewhat – I was able to deliver something but not something I was happy with.
However, your suggestions were very helpful in starting down the path to a different workflow. I did export the selects out to Dnxhd – and found a method for installing prores on this system without fcp but have not done that yet. You were right, it was much easier to edit and apply effects with the transcoded file even though it was monstrously huge.

Here is a question for you guys. Maybe it should go in a new thread. But for now…as mentioned earlier in the thread – as far as workflow with AVCHD and Premiere, considering several camera cards, and factoring in the transcoded files to edit with, what is your process?

1) Bring in AVCHD -> import all-> cut out the junk (thereby avoiding huge transcoded file sizes) and pull out selects -> export the timeline to transcoded file -> re-import? (Which seems like a lot of extra work as you have to cut the clips up twice).

2) DO your edit on mts -> output files to transcoded format -> import back in for effects? (that would be limited as far as flexibility for creative editing)

3)Some other workflow involving logging in Prelude or using subclips? (Considering that cs6 has no batch export of subclips.

Thx

[Chris Zecco]

Hey Kell,

I usually drop everything into Media Encoder and export DNxHD 185 and DNxHD 36. I work off of the 36, and apply filters and everything with that, then when I lock picture, I re-link to the DNxHD 185. This keeps all of the filters and effects you apply to the low res footage, and you don’t end up having to work with super huge files, speeding up your edit time. Takes up a bit more space on your hard drive to begin with, but it’s worth it in the long run.

Chris

2012 Mac Pro
2x 2.4GHz Intel Xeon
24GB RAM
1GB ATI Radeon 5770

2011 Macbook Pro
2.4GHz i7
8GB RAM

[Ivan Myles]

[Chris Zecco] “I usually drop everything into Media Encoder and export DNxHD 185 and DNxHD 36.”

DNxHD/MXF is a good choice, but I have had issues with DNxHD/mov (clipping and remapping bright colors). AVC-Intra is another option for standard HD resolutions.

[Ivan Myles]

[Kell Smith] “… as far as workflow with AVCHD and Premiere, considering several camera cards, and factoring in the transcoded files to edit with, what is your process?”

I recommend transcoding to an intermediate format as the first step. Whether you convert all the camera footage or a smaller collection of clips will depend on other factors, such as the availability of storage space and the total amount of footage, for example. Then edit and apply effects to the intermediate file(s).

[David Baud]

[Kell Smith] “2) DO your edit on mts -> output files to transcoded format -> import back in for effects? (that would be limited as far as flexibility for creative editing)
“

Another option, if you want to avoid having to transcode all your footage, would be to use the Project Manager function in PrP. The idea is that you cut your show in its original camera file format (assuming that your system can handle it) and when you are done with your editing, PrP transcodes automatically just your sequence to a different codec, before you apply your effects. In the Project Manager window, you can select how much handle you want to keep for each clip used in your sequence, which will be handy in the case you still want to do some tweaking after transcoding.

Note: the Project Manager function has been around for a while in PrP, but with various bugs and missing features over different versions. You may want to run a full test before committing to it and make sure it runs the way expected on your system.

David Baud
Post & VFX
KOSMOS PRODUCTIONS
Denver – Paris
http://www.kosmos-productions.com