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Activity Forums Adobe Premiere Pro 8 hour rendierng, not even a third done, are you kidding me?

  • Kell Smith

    November 13, 2015 at 3:36 pm

    Ahh! the dreaded error message. Grrr.
    Thanks you guys for sharing your experiences with long encodes. You know how frustrating that is for sure.

    it appears that I do not have pro res on my system. What would be the best settings for, say, a dnxhd master? for 1080p?

  • Kell Smith

    November 13, 2015 at 3:38 pm

    It won’t let me change it in a new sequence either, in the bin or in the project panel. I did try that though. Not sure what to do or why it’s grayed out at every point. I wonder if that setting is project-specific?

  • Kell Smith

    November 13, 2015 at 3:55 pm

    Thank you,
    I’ve got such a headache at this point! Ha The learning curve… gotta love it.
    This is valuable though because it’s exposing some technical areas I was just not aware of as I don’t usually deal too much with effects, rendering, don’t venture out of my usual codecs, etc.
    I’m under the gun and have to leave to go out of town in the morning to shoot another job. Which I am not completely prepared for because of time spent trying to fix this nightmare project. For four days. Ugh.
    Right now I went back to an earlier pre-filters sequence, and am exporting that as a master to dnxhd. It appears I do not have pro res on my system – only aic.

    The project file is on my hd, and the source files and outputs are on an external Western Digital My Passport 1tb drive with 700 gig left on it.

    I’m going to have to stop, let this thing export, and prepare for tomorrow. have to get equipment packed, go over the planning, charge batteries, etc. So when the dust settles I am going to study this thread very closely and really make some changes to my workflow. I haven’t been working in awhile, and more work is coming in now so it’s good that this is bringing these issues to light.

    I am infinitely grateful for everyone’s experience and guidance on this.

  • Tero Ahlfors

    November 13, 2015 at 4:13 pm

    [Kell Smith] “Okay. I’ll try that. SO render it, then export out to dnxhd? “

    You don’t need to render your timeline to export the timeline. You only need to render your timeline if you need to play it back in realtime if you’re not getting good enough performance. You could also try dropping the playback quality.

  • Kell Smith

    November 14, 2015 at 1:50 am

    I exported a dnxhd master with mono tracks but it bunched them all into track one. ( There are 6). Anyway to export a dnxhd master and retain the mono tracks so we can change the mix up later?
    And 214 gig for about a two hour file… is that normal for this codec? Wow that’s large. I did give it 100% quality in the export.
    I need to get that re-exporting tonight, overnight, so appreciate any help on how to export with the proper audio tracks. Thank you

    EDIT – think I found the answer – here’s the link https://strypesinpost.com/2012/11/exporting-multichannel-quicktimes-in-premiere-pro/

  • Tero Ahlfors

    November 14, 2015 at 10:22 am

    [Kell Smith] “And 214 gig for about a two hour file… is that normal for this codec?”

    Yes. It depends on the flavor of DNxHD. DNxHD 185, for example, is around 185 Mbit/s.

  • Kell Smith

    November 17, 2015 at 12:46 am

    If anyone is still out there in this thread, I really need some help to know what to do now. I cannot seem to fix these clips (low light issues, earlier thread https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/3/971640 ). I’ve been trying to fix them with a denoiser (it’s over two hours of footage) to no avail. Have nearly filled up a terrabyte drive just exporting useless stuff. Everything I export takes like 6-9 hours and then is either huge file size or just not usable. I exported test clips and uploaded them to youtube and YT made it worse and the files were unreviewable. So I went to export out, put the clips on a DVD, but can’t seem to even get a usable clip. When I add the shadow/highlight filter it lightens it up but the video noise is unbearable. I go to add a denoiser (no I don’t know after effects beyond being able to naviagate around) the file exports, for just a tiny little test – a minute or so – 18 gig. And the render file was in slow motion. ????
    No matter what I do, I cannot even get a usable review clip and they are HUGE and will lose information once downsized for web.
    I don’t know what to and am just caught in an anxiety loop about it. Everything takes an entire night just to render or export. I cannot drive it over to the client and show it to him on my laptop because I am out of town. He is expecting a dvd in the mail with the clips on it (yesterday) and yet I cannot even get anything usable to send him

    Last night I set it to render with a denoiser in AE. It said the render time was 20 hours. I woke up this morning and the program had crashed.

    Not comfortable posting any clips on here without the band’s permission. But if someone that is really good at miracles would be willing to take a look at some clips and tell me what to do I would really be grateful because I am at a loss and have been basically sitting here for six straight days, unable to export what should be a simple thing: a two camera shoot for a band gig with some simple web clips. An eighth grader with an iphone could have done a better job. I am so humiliated they thought they were hiring a professional and I was not equipped to handle the low light exposures, and apparently I don’t know as much about exporting as I think i do. So I will probably return their money and suggest they go hire an eighth grader with an iphone. I don’t know if I am cut out for this. i thought I was. But right now I don’t think I could serve hamburgers properly much less do a two camera shoot. I was just getting ready to step out on a new business idea for video and all the confidence I had is gone now.

    On the upside, my wedding shoot this week went well so that’s a bright spot.

  • David Baud

    November 17, 2015 at 1:05 am

    It is very difficult to give you any kind of advice if you cannot show us your problem… we need to see an actual clip in order to form an opinion… if you can’t then maybe your best way out is to hire someone who can help you to get the most out of it…

    Good luck,

    David Baud
    Post & VFX
    KOSMOS PRODUCTIONS
    Denver – Paris
    http://www.kosmos-productions.com

  • Joe Barta iv

    November 17, 2015 at 2:27 pm

    We are all still here. We feel your pain. We’ve all had projects go south. Learn from it and go on.

    Low light, dark video is hard to recover. Basically, there is no information there to get back. Pushing up the blacks will always bring out the noise. You’re not doing anything wrong, that’s just the way video is. Noise reduction will help some, but again it can only do so much. Plus, noise reduction is a very processor intensive procedure, it will always take longer than regular color correction renders.

    Hang in there.

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  • Kell Smith

    November 18, 2015 at 1:06 am

    David, I”d be happy to upload you a clip if you are open to that.
    I’ve corrected it somewhat and it looked better when rendered out but it still pretty dark.
    The file outputted was a full hd – 27 gig – I figured it would be quicker to upload it to google drive than to export a smaller one and upload that.
    Not so much. Put it on at 11 this morning and it is still only 80% uploaded and it’s 8 pm.
    This has been what it’s been… basically sit and wait, all day, then another day, and so on, for anything to get rendered, exported or uploaded. it’s so frustrating to just sit there for hours on end watching things export when you are late and cant’get your clip to your client.
    It’s a two hour HD clip, and I kept it large to retain best quality. But this is ridiculous. I could probably get decent quality wiht a much smaller clip.
    9 hours to upload to google drive? (first time using it). That’s really long.

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