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  • 8 bit or 10 bit

    Posted by David Go on August 13, 2005 at 1:29 pm

    Hi,

    I’m doing some effects work on a some Digi Beta originated material and am a little concerned about project colour space. It appears the only 2 options are 8 bit or 16 bit float. The original footage is 10 bit uncompressed and I would like to keep that quality if possible. When I output I choose the 10 bit uncompressed codec but if the project is set at 8 bit surely I would be losing quality.

    I know not many progarms support 10 bit, including Photoshop, which I find a bit strange.

    Does anyone know how to keep it 10 bit from start to finish? Does it matter?

    Thanks.

    David Go replied 20 years, 8 months ago 3 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Chris Smith

    August 13, 2005 at 3:26 pm

    For 10 bit pipeline, use the 16 bit project. It will just “downconvert” on render out back to 10-bit. Yes 8 bit will kill your bitdepth. However, make sure you have at least 10 bit all the way through your process. One bit of 8 bit will downgrade the whole lot.

    Although I’ve seen arguments that Digibeta is 8 bit running through a 10 bit pipe. Don’t know.

    Chris Smith
    https://www.sugarfilmproduction.com

  • Rich Rubasch

    August 14, 2005 at 2:06 am

    Also, be sure to check your renders after you run them throug AE, especially if you are just fixing part of the shot and don’t want to change the overall color balance. There was a thread a while back about how AE handles 10 bit color space and in my experience it brings up the blacks and overall luminance. Not good. I simply brought a 10-bit clip into AE and dropped it into a new comp and rendered it to the 10-bit codec and it was definately not the same clip. No solution except to export it as 8-bit.

    Wonder now how using a 16-bit comp might have worked.

    Rich Rubasch
    Tilt Media

  • Chris Smith

    August 14, 2005 at 6:14 am

    Rich, I would repeat your experiment but see if it was the bit depth change or a possible YUV-RGB-YUV conversion that changed your color values. Color space conversion will definitely shift things around, but I question if bit depth would.

    Chris Smith
    https://www.sugarfilmproduction.com

  • David Go

    August 15, 2005 at 2:33 am

    Thanks everybody for the info. I’m a little surprised there isn’t a 10-bit option, but if the 16-bit covers that then I guess it’s not necessary.

    I have noticed a slight colour shift, but I just make sure that I put the entire shot through AE and then the entire shot has the same colour shift, which is pretty minor anyway.

    Thanks.

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