7toX- this sucker really works well!

[Jeremy Garchow]

It’s so funny, I literally just signed in to write a very similar post as I’ve been messing around with this a bit today.

Kudos, Intelligent Assistance. Nice work.

This, and being able to actually see the work on a video monitor is great!

Jeremy

[Bill Davis]

Good to hear.

Has anyone had success the other direction with Phil’s X to 7 app?

I’ve got a project that needs to ship out to California that I did in X and the clients want to do additional editing there in 7.

I was able to break up the projects compound clips as required, but while the resulting file presents the “Export XML” choice, the resulting data file appears to be empty.

I’m confident this will sort out, but they’d like to work this weekend so I’m hoping there’s something simple and stupid I’m doing wrong.

TIA.

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[Aindreas Gallagher]

there seem to be variable results?

https://www.definitionmagazine.com/journal/2012/2/2/review-apple-fcp-x-1003.html

his first tasks are extreme, the last, very much less so – but the fact that QA on a continuing critical aspect of a product called FCP was randomly left to third parties six months later who didn’t know via signals if apple actually wanted to do it – and then to have apple advertise it on the update, when it appears to fail to this degree – seems beyond weird.

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[Bret Williams]

Didn’t work for squat for me. Screwed up everything once it finally imported. Some 51 XMLs later. 3 pngs were the culprit for some reason. I guess my sequence was too complicated for it. It strewed stuff everywhere and I could hear but not see, although the thumbnails for some of it were there. Can’t say it would be of any use with all the data that doesn’t crossover anyway. titles? colors? alpha mattes? audio pans were off too. And I think it had a problem with my 720p60 video being in a 720p30 sequence. Phillip said they already have an updated version sent in to Apple to address some issues, so hopefully it’ll work better in a few days for me.

[David Roth weiss]

[Jeremy Garchow] “and being able to actually see the work on a video monitor is great!
“

I think you and other AJA users are luckier than than most Jeremy, because it seems AJA may be the only one of the big three I/O manufacturers who have video monitoring in X working well so far. The limited number of devices the drivers do work on is a concern for some, and it would be interesting to know why that is, as the trend until this point in time has almost, if not always, been one release of drivers that works for all devices.

Meanwhile, BMD released drivers for FCPX 10.0.3 on Feb. 1, but if you go to the BMD Cow Forum, you’ll see that there are several issues and questions from users who require troubleshooting, but so far no answers from BMD or any users.

And, Matrox has not delivered drivers for FCPX 10.0.3 at all, yet. Not sure why, but hopefully they will provide their drivers sooner rather than later.

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[Jeremy Garchow]

[Bret Williams] “3 pngs were the culprit for some reason. I guess my sequence was too complicated for it. “

For the three PNGs?

[Bret Williams] “It strewed stuff everywhere and I could hear but not see, although the thumbnails for some of it were there”

What do you mean it strewed stuff everywhere exactly? It’s hard to strew stuff anywhere in FCPX. if you mean that there’s no bins within bins, then yes. It might appeared strewn, but it’s more like all your bins are now at root level. When viewing the clips in the Event in list mode, you can see the keywords to where they were assigned. Those used to be bins.

[Bret Williams] ” and I could hear but not see, although the thumbnails for some of it were there.”

I find that it takes a minute for everything to get built (it also copies the media in to the Event, I wish there was a reference link option).

[Bret Williams] ” titles? colors? alpha mattes? audio pans were off too.”

This is not pointed at you, but this is exactly why Apple said it couldn’t be done with perfect fidelity. As with going to any other program or NLE, not everything is going to translate perfectly, even within the same suite of apps from the same company.

Jeremy

[Michael Gissing]

I was saying months ago about the fragility of having third party developers trying to keep up with beta software developments. The original Automatic Duck OMF export is already broken. 7toX still obviously need a whole lot of updating in the next few weeks.

It is a bit like a train with sloppy linkages. The engine is new and being worked on during the journey. The driver is learning and a bit erratic. The first few carriages have the third party developers who are getting a lot of jostling. Meanwhile at the back of the train are the passengers – us. We get the most jostling as the third party developers try to fix the sloppy carriage linkages. They are brave perhaps foolish souls who might be better pulling the pin and letting the engine erratically steam off.

I can see why Wes Plate jumped off the train early.

[Steve Connor]

[David Roth Weiss] “The limited number of devices the drivers do work on is a concern for some, and it would be interesting to know why that is, as the trend until this point in time has almost, if not always, been one release of drivers that works for all devices.

These are entirely new drivers written to the new CoreMediaIO services, it’s going to take some time to get them right.

Steve Connor
“FCPX Agitator”
Adrenalin Television

[Jeremy Garchow]

[David Roth Weiss] “I think you and other AJA users are luckier than than most Jeremy, because it seems AJA may be the only one of the big three I/O manufacturers who have video monitoring in X working well so far.”

It’s labeled as a Beta by both Apple and AJA and it feels like it. There’s some delay and hesitation, you have to route audio out through the sys prefs, and you can’t control the Kona through FCPX, yet. It’s much better than the quasi extended desktop that was needed before 10.0.3 It’s obvious that there’s some work left to be done on Apple’s part, and then the work will start on AJA’s part.

After watching all of my FCPX test footage on a computer monitor all this time, it’s amazing to see it back on the proper monitor. I truly missed video out in FCPX. I can now really start to evaluate what’s going on.

I still use a broadcast monitor in FCP7 (so I do watch footage on a broadcast monitor, every day) where I do all of my paying work, I am just talking about my FCPX evaluation period.

I still can’t think I can use FCPX for everything yet, but for smaller paying gigs, this is starting to become a bit more of a reality for us.

[David Roth Weiss] “The limited number of devices the drivers do work on is a concern for some, and it would be interesting to know why that is, as the trend until this point in time has almost, if not always, been one release of drivers that works for all devices.
“

Yeah, it’s not perfect. I think the io drivers follow the Kona drivers. AJA officially announced support for ioHD and ioExpress coming soon. The rest of the Kona’s plus the ioXT work (save the LHe, which it doesn’t sound like LHe will be supported in FCPX at all). That’s a pretty decent initial beta release. I don’t know what’s going on with Decklink or Matrox. I don’t have any of their products, unfortunately.

Jeremy

[Don Scioli]

I imported a 5 minute section of a TV show with a lot of cuts and all the transition came through, all of the many shots except one,and the title spaces came through. From there it was an easy process to play the original cut in Quicktime and compare the titles and replace them. It took all of about 10 minutes to do.

Considering the impossible alternative, I’m very happy with these results and look forward to more refinement.