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720×480 still is wrong aspect ratio in a 720×480 Anamorphic 4:3 project
Alright, so I’ve got a project that is set to 720×480 in a 4:3 (16:9 anamorphic) setting as per the automatic setup when matching a project settings to an imported clip.
The video clips came from a Sony DSR-PDX10. I’ve scaled an image down in photoshop to 720×480 (or 720×479 technically), but as you can see it doesn’t match up with the aspect ratio of the actual project.
Now, I realize that 720×480 is basically a 4:3 aspect ratio, and that the original 4:3 video is being stretched to create the anamorphic 16:9 video I’m seeing. What I don’t get is, how I can make this picture fit properly in the project.
Is there a way I can make the image fit right without having to crop it to a different pixel width/height? Because 4:3 is it’s native aspect and I’d like not to have to crop each image I want to place in the timeline. Any help would be great.
Even just a little explanation as to why the two images (video and still) are different looking when they are the same pixel width?
-Josh
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Ok, well after screwing around with it for a while (not that I didn’t before I posted) I see the solution.
The Aspect ratio was automatically being adjusted to 18.52 upon import.
So simply setting the aspect ratio to 1 makes the image stretch to fill the frame. It looks stretched, but after a rendered through quicktime, it looks perfectly fine when viewed in quicktime.
And I think I’ve figured out why it’s doing this. But a cleared explanation from someone who knows would be great!
My guess is it’s some funky stuff having to do with the Anamorphic 16:9 being pulled from the 4:3 video. It’s doing something crazy that I don’t get. The images that I import don’t have that anamorphic meta-data in them so FCP overcompensates upon import.-Josh
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This image is native 4×3. Why are you making it anamorphic 16×9?
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Hi Joshua,
You are making a big mess.[Joshua Brown] “I’ve got a project that is set to 720×480 in a 4:3 (16:9 anamorphic) settin”
This makes no sense.
To make fit the clips of the SONY in the 16×9 sequence, check the “Anamorphic” column in the Browser and drag the clip to the sequence.
DV NTSC is ALWAYS 720×480. Depends how you read those pixels will look 4×3 or 16×9.
rafael(and here some clips for the friends: https://www.vimeo.com/2694745 )
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Hi Rafael.
I realize now that the video is in fact 4:3. In order to display properly it needs to be read as Anamorphic 16:9. I have that all ironed out.
The thing I was having trouble with was why the still images I imported were not filling up the whole frame when they were the same pixel size. I see now that FCP was not interpreting them into the project properly and was adjusting them to a squashed aspect ratio that looks right on the screen, but didn’t cover the whole frame size.
However, after fixing the aspect ratio size of the still images, they look stretched on the preview, but perfectly normal after rendering the video out.-Josh
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[Joshua Brown] “The images that I import don’t have that anamorphic meta-data in them so FCP overcompensates upon import. “
Apple QT codecs have no Anamorphic metadata. FC can only know that the footage is Anamorphic if you tell him. On capturing you tell to capture as Anamorphic, but on import you need to manually check it as Anamorphic in the Browser.
rafael(and here some clips for the friends: https://www.vimeo.com/2694745 )
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Yeah, your right, it is a big mess. Haha. I thought I had it figured out but now I see it’s all wrong.
Ok, here’s the deal:
In Final Cut, the sequence setting has Anamorphic 16:9 checked on. And it looks just great in the timeline. All the images are the right aspect ratio now too (aspect ratio 0 ).
However, when I export, it is not exported as a 16:9 movie file and it’s squashed back to 4:3. The Images look right, but now the video is mushed so my talking head is tall.
-Josh
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You got that analysis right. Now change your video back to the way it was before. When you imported the clip and let FCP adjust sequence to match. Then, create your graphic according to the “Frame Size Chart for Creating Graphics” in the manual. Search on that phrase. Be sure to read the whole section on preparing graphics for Final Cut.
If you have a late version of Photoshop, it will have presets specifically for video that will make the correct size and pixel aspect ratio.
If you want to be lazy and just have it work, make your stills 853×480 and pop them in.
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[Joshua Brown] “However, when I export, it is not exported as a 16:9 movie file and it’s squashed back to 4:3. The Images look right, but now the video is mushed so my talking head is tal”
No Joshua, your video is still Anamorphic. Is QT who doesn’t knows how interpret the different kind of pixels. This is why looks more or less 4×3. That’s correct.
If you want to make your movie look properly 16×9 fallow the advise of this thread:
https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/8/1027384
rafael(and here some clips for the friends: https://www.vimeo.com/2694745 )
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Hi Guys. Thanks again for all the help Tom, Eric, And Rafael.
I’ve got it all taken care of. I’ve set the settings back to normal (the first image I posted in this thread). And tailored my graphics to match the project settings.
And your right, QT didn’t know it was supposed to be an Anamorphic 16×9 image. So I found out that I needed to export it with those settings. So in compressor (or quicktime conversion), I set it to NTSC DV Anamorphic 16×9 output settings, and it interpreted the footage correctly.
Thanks again.
-Josh
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