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  • 720P60 23.98fps (960×720) > HD Layoff to tape 1920×1080 (59.94 fields / 29.97 fps)

    Posted by Lisa Rolley on April 2, 2009 at 5:14 pm

    Hello friends,

    I need to convert a sequence from FCP which is 720P60 (960×720) 23.98 into HD for Layoff – specifically it needs to be 1920×1080 59.94 fields and i guess 29.97 FPS : )

    I am fairly new to AE and have actually never had to do this before which is why i posted in the basics section…i hope this is not too easy of a question for this forum.

    If anyone can explain to me how best to do this I would greatly appreciate the help…from what I understand at this point i am meant to make a new comp which is 1920×1080 at the current frame rate of my video file (23.980 and then in the render que set it to field render (?)…the specifics of this process i am not clear on and as iam sure you all are aware there are some things one can set incorrectly.

    thank you in advance for your time

    best
    Lisa

    Joey Burnham replied 17 years, 1 month ago 4 Members · 26 Replies
  • 26 Replies
  • Joey Burnham

    April 2, 2009 at 5:40 pm

    what is your budget? you are correct in nesting your comp into a new 1920 x 1080 comp at 23.976 (NOT 23.98), then scaling to fit. Render that out and take that in your NLE. The conversion from 23.976 to 59.94 (29.97) isn’t pretty unless you go through a proper converter. (Snell and Wilcox, Teranex, etc)
    Joey

  • Kevin Camp

    April 2, 2009 at 6:14 pm

    actually, ae should handle the telecine conversion from 23.976 to 59.94 interlaced quite well if you need to get it to 59.94 interlaced for a 59.94i timeline in your nle…

    create your comp joey describes (1920×1080, 23.976 fps) and add your 23.976 footage and scale to fit comp (layer>transform>scale to fit). then when you render, click the render settings and choose to render fields (upper first for 1080) and select a pulldown cadence (any should work fine). you’ll notice that in the frame rate in render settings changes to 29.97 when you select a pulldown. then render and you’ll have a 29.97 fps interlaced (59.94 fields/sec) render to work with.

    Kevin Camp
    Senior Designer
    KCPQ, KMYQ & KRCW

  • Joey Burnham

    April 2, 2009 at 6:24 pm

    Depends on your standards I guess. Only reason I say that is because I’ve had footage rejected that was converted in AE. Depends mostly on your client. In the conversion world you get what you pay for. Quite well definitely works in a lot of situations but if your client is expecting perfection AE is not the way to go for frame rate conversions.

  • Lisa Rolley

    April 2, 2009 at 7:08 pm

    Thanks everyone for the responses i really appreciate the help.

    AE seems to be my best option here – i only have compressor & mpeg streamclip at my disposal.

    if any one else has thoughts or different work flows please chime in – otherwise be well…

    best

    Lisa

  • Chris Wright

    April 2, 2009 at 8:21 pm

    Make sure AE comp is set 23.976 not 23.98. AE needs to be very precise.

    Kevin is right about the pulldown, but you should know that it pretty much keeps the “look” the same. It will still look like film movement, and I recommend pulldown cadence WWSSW as that is the closest pulldown to film minimizing stutter.

  • Lisa Rolley

    April 2, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    wait but in qt and fcp it says its 23.98

  • Joey Burnham

    April 2, 2009 at 10:10 pm

    in FCP and QT they label anything that’s 23.976 as 23.98
    you are fine

  • Lisa Rolley

    April 2, 2009 at 10:26 pm

    i see – so when i bring into AE it will read at the top as 23.976?

  • Joey Burnham

    April 2, 2009 at 10:31 pm

    it should but to be sure check the settings of your footage by right clicking on it and choosing interpret footage > main

  • Lisa Rolley

    April 2, 2009 at 10:48 pm

    ok great thanks so much!!
    best
    Lisa

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