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720p24PN data through the AJ-PCD20 P2 device
Posted by Arthur Luhn on March 19, 2007 at 10:16 pmIs that possible? Because I just read that PN can’t go over on a 1394 connection.
FCP 5.1.4
OS X 10.4.8
G5 2.66 GhHz Dual-core Intel Xeon
Panasonic AJ-PCD20
HVX-200
1 TB Lacie ext. HDShane Ross replied 19 years, 2 months ago 4 Members · 10 Replies -
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Shane Ross
March 19, 2007 at 10:23 pmApparently with the latest drivers, the Firestore FS-100 can do 720p 24PN.
That connects via firewire.
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Jeremy Garchow
March 20, 2007 at 12:28 amThis thing will mount 5 P2 cards to your desktop and at that point, it’s a file transfer and firewire is the pipe you use to get the data from the card reader to your disk drive.
When people say you can’t do PN over firewire, that means that the firewire output of the camera does not output native frame rates while shooting. Although, as Shane mentioned, the latest version of the firestore firmware has somehow defeated this workaround.
If you are simply mounting the cards to your desktop, then the PN will essentially transfer over, but at that point it’s just data and not a video stream.
I hope that makes sense.
Jeremy
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Arthur Luhn
March 20, 2007 at 1:14 amYes it does, thank you very much. I am in the process of rendering a huge sigh of relief for output.
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Jeremy Garchow
March 20, 2007 at 1:20 am[Original Idiot] “I am in the process of rendering a huge sigh of relief for output.”
What do you mean? What are you planning on doing for output? i was talking about input only.
Jeremy
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Arthur Luhn
March 20, 2007 at 2:00 amhuge sigh of relief = a deep breath, like a “whew!”.. bad joke.. sorry.
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Jeremy Garchow
March 20, 2007 at 2:07 amYeah, I know what a huge sigh of relief is. I was just wondering what you were doing for output, as I was originally talking about input. Upon output FCP will convert your 720p24 to 720p60.
You won’t use the AJ-PCD20 for output.
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Barry Green
March 20, 2007 at 2:22 am[JeremyG] “the latest version of the firestore firmware has somehow defeated this workaround.”
For clarity’s sake, no, the FS-100 doesn’t. You cannot put the camera in 24pN mode and expect data to come out the firewire port.
What the FireStore does now (in version 3.0) is simulate 24pN recording. Your HVX is still put in 720/24p mode (all 100 megabits), and the FireStore reads the incoming data stream and discards any duplicate frames, thus recording only the flagged frames (which is what the camera does internally when in pN mode).
But if you put an HVX in pN mode and try to connect a FireStore to it, you’ll get flat nothin’. The FS-100 can only record if the HVX is *not* in pN mode. The FS-100 v3.0 has the ability to simulate pN, just like FCP and EDIUS and DV Rack 2.0 HD all can.
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Jeremy Garchow
March 20, 2007 at 2:25 amCool, thanks for the clarification. It makes perfect sense.
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