720p24 in Final Cut

[Shane Ross]

[Massimiliano] “It stops every missed frame, and it creates a gap of 8 seconds every time it stops… “

Do you mean it stops capturing whenever the camera stops? That is normal for HDV. You cannot capture one contunuous clip with HDV. This is something you need to plan for and give yourself plenty of pre-roll. Or log and capture…that will get you about 4 seconds of missed material at the head of your clips, because FCP needs pre-roll.

Shane

Littlefrog Post
http://www.lfhd.net

[Gary Adcock]

[Shane Ross] “Do you mean it stops capturing whenever the camera stops? That is normal for HDV. You cannot capture one contunuous clip with HDV. “

Additionally to solve some of these issues make sure that the date and time in your camera is correctly set. Since DV and HDV use time of day time code (even when smpte is being generated) often this will solve some of the TC break issues.

gary adcock
Studio37
HD & Film Consultation
Post and Production Workflows

[Brigitta Boccoli]

Hi Gary,
actually I knew about the FCP pre-roll, but the thing is that it takes every TC gap as the end of the clip, and it does it often.
In the beginning I thought it was a camera play-head problem, so I started to use a JVC deck… but it happens anyway. So I guess it’s a TC break problem.
Does Final Cut has a setup where you can disable this behavior?
Like… don’t close me the clip any time there is a missing frame, please!

Thanks Gary for the help

[Shane Ross]

[massimiliano] “actually I knew about the FCP pre-roll, but the thing is that it takes every TC gap as the end of the clip, and it does it often.”

Yes, that is the nature of HDV. Every time you stop the camera that breaks the TC and FCP will stop capturing and create a new clip.

[massimiliano] “Does Final Cut has a setup where you can disable this behavior?”

Yes. Change deck control to UNCONTROLLED DEVICE and control the deck manually. But this is not recommended. You are now IGNORING timecode information and capturing the clips without reference to the taped material. Lose a drive, lose any of the clips and not only do you have to recapture, but you’ll have to rebuild your edit from scratch. Keep the TC and if you happen to lose a drive or clip, when you recapture it captures it exactly as it did before and your cut is rebuilt. How much is your time worth? The initial capture may take longer, but weigh that against any potential problem where you have to recut everything from scratch if you have a drive failure. Up to you.

Timecode is gold.

Shane

Littlefrog Post
http://www.lfhd.net

[Brigitta Boccoli]

Thanks Shane,
It is scary work with no time code… but for now to me it seems to be the only way to have it done.
Unfortunately FCP doesn’t stop just when I pressed stop during the shooting, but also when it gets into a dropped frame. I don’t exactly know why, but I know it’s a problem that happened to many other JVC GY-HD100 users.

So, If I understood right, FCP 5.1.2 does work with the JVC GY-HD100… right?
…It’s not a bug of the software that creates those problems.

[Shane Ross]

[massimiliano] “So, If I understood right, FCP 5.1.2 does work with the JVC GY-HD100… right?”

Should. The HDV 720p24 Easy Setup is there. But I read more and more people who say that it still doesn’t work. Which is why it is best (if you can afford it) to get a JVC HDV deck and Kona LH capture card and capture the footage as DVCPRO HD.

What drive are you capturing your footage to?

Shane

Littlefrog Post
http://www.lfhd.net

[Brigitta Boccoli]

when I had to capture the footage I rented a JVC HD-BR50E,
but I immediately realized that there was a problem with time code brakes anyway.

I thought that Kona card was just an analog capture card…
does it work with FireWire too?

[Shane Ross]

[massimiliano] “I thought that Kona card was just an analog capture card…
does it work with FireWire too?”

It is an analog capture card. Which is how you can capture HDV as DVCPRO HD. It isn’t a firewire capture card as you don’t need a capture card to capture footage via firewire. The computer does that.

Here is the AJA Whitepaper on the subject:

https://www.aja.com/pdf/support/AJA_whitepaper_HDV.pdf

Shane

Littlefrog Post
http://www.lfhd.net

[Brigitta Boccoli]

Thanks Shane,
you have been very kind.

I hope with this to find a solution… and off course a budget to afford it!

Thanks again

[Gary Adcock]

[massimiliano] “actually I knew about the FCP pre-roll, but the thing is that it takes every TC gap as the end of the clip, and it does it often.”

It is more a camera thing than and FCP thing- Don’t playback footage in-camera, leave lots of pre and post roll, set the Time and date in the camera and set the FCP prefs to “make new clip on TC break” in the user settings.

Changing the pre/ post roll in FCP can solve some of this – shorten it to 2 sec for each and see if that helps and turn off the abort capture on dropped frames and set the TC break to just warn you.
<< Note that this does not solve FCP errors resulting from slow drives during capture- and if that is an issue this will cause MORE problems >>

gary adcock
Studio37
HD & Film Consultation
Post and Production Workflows