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720P and 50fps – What do I have? HELP!!!
Hi,
I shot a couple of days ago a video clip – for the first time on a P2. We wanted in some dance sequences and singing masters the slow motion effect. Unfortunately, I did not have the cam in 720PN Mode and choosing in Cinelike the 50fps, but in 720P Mode choosing 50fps. The result is weird and I do not know what I have now. The 720P 50fps looks strange – it’s with audio, seeming to play back at normal speed, but it looks very hectic and speed up. When I force this material in a 25fps timeline in FCP it looks normal.
What do I have now? Is it 50fps or not? And if yes, why do i not see it double speed then?Thanx a lot for solving my riddle!
Greetz,
Sascha Engel
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28 Replies
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Hi People,
I hope, somebody will respond to that post even though I am not from PAL land!
Cannot find an answer and it drives me nuts! 🙁Sascha Engel
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Not sure if this will help, but I’ve found info on your combo in a couple places:
https://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1506235
and
https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/193/863887#863895The first link seems to be the most appropriate.
Good luck!
-Scott
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In the browser (scroll to the right), what does it say in the vid rate column?
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Hi Jeremy,
the once who were shot in 720P/50fps show under video rate exactly that 50fps. But the problem is, that they do not behave, like the once shot in 720PN Mode 50fps. They look somehow speed up and unnaturally faster than the 25fps material. But they contain Audio that runs at normal speed. So, I feel it compensates the visual material, speeding/catching up (showing all the extra frames) and then for a moment normal. But I really wanna know, how I can access the 50fps in this case? It’s not working like the cranked up version of the PN Mode.
Drives ne nuts!Sascha Engel
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If you go throught the footage frame by frame, do you have discrett frame or is there anything that’s duplicated?
Jeremy
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Thanx for the help, but both links did not really answer that question in a way that I could grasp it.
Still leaves me with the miracle, that every program I use says that footage is 50fps, but because it’s recorded in the 720P and not 720 PN Mode makes it behave so strange.
Still happy for any suggestions.Thanx!
Sascha Engel
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What does it mean discrett frame? Sorry, don’t know that word! 😉
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I went through the footage – frame by frame – no doubles, no interlacing, one after the other, full frames, moving along in space. Because it’s dance, you would spot double frames quiet easy, but there’s nothing.
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But there’s an interesting phenomenon: When I go frame by frame through the 25fps material and through the 50fps material, there’s a significant difference: the 50fps show much less movement from one frame to another than the 25 fps material. Which for me clearly means they are taken in a shorter time distance, so there should be 50 of them as it says in the video rate. But why the hell I can not acess them in the timeline ;-(
Sascha Engel
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Meaning, if you go through the video frame by frame (click the right arrow), so you see one frame after another that are different, or do you sometimes see two frames that are the same?
For example:
you could see frame 1, frame 2, frame 3, frame 4
or you might see, frame 1, frame 1, frame 2, frame 2, etc.
Jeremy
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