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  • 720p 60 subclip layback

    Posted by Ewin on January 30, 2006 at 2:30 am

    Hi,
    Out of hours of DVCPro HD 720p 60 media, I have selected my project’s final subclips and I want to lay them back to a new master so they will all share one timecode (for future onlining purposes).
    My question is, how do I layback this new DVCPro HD master with the media’s 60fps flagged frames retained so that I can recapture these clips at their original frame rate? As it is, the new tape keeps mastering at 29.97fps with no flagged frames.
    Original footage shot on DVCPro HD at 60fps, my deck is AJ1200, FireWire in/output.
    Any ideas?
    Thank you.

    Gary Adcock replied 20 years, 3 months ago 3 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Shane Ross

    January 30, 2006 at 2:47 am

    Just a question: Why not save all the source tapes? Why make a new one? What tis the point?

    Shane Ross
    Alokut Productions
    http://www.lfhd.net

  • Ewin

    January 30, 2006 at 5:09 am

    We’ll be onlining elsewhere and the client wants to simplify as much as possible so rather than send many many tapes, we will send the one.

  • Shane Ross

    January 30, 2006 at 8:39 am

    I don’t have any ideas how to do what you are asking…not from captured material. I never in my experience with 3 non-linear edit systems have I noted a way to output from the system to tape sending the clip timecode to the deck. The NLE doesn’t send out that information…it sends out the timeline information.

    The only way I have known to transfer clips with their timecode is by dubbing them deck to deck, how stock footage companies do it when we order master footage.

    Maybe someone else will have a better answer.

    Shane Ross
    Alokut Productions
    http://www.lfhd.net

  • Gary Adcock

    January 30, 2006 at 3:43 pm

    [Shane Ross] “he NLE doesn’t send out that information…it sends out the timeline information.”

    Correct – And the flagging info is not included in the FCP translation.
    Now are you talking about 60FPS in a 24p timeline or just 24p?

    the 24 frame content should translate from the FCP timeline on output correctly and yes the TC track should always 29.97.

    How about a little more info about what you are trying to do.

    Gary Adcock
    Studio37
    HD and Film Consultation
    Chicago, IL USA

  • Ewin

    January 30, 2006 at 7:19 pm

    Thank you for your replies.
    The media is not 24p it’s 720p 60. The footage was shot at 60fps and the FCP timeline containing my selected subsclips is 60fps. I don’t want the original clips’ timecode retained, I just want the new master tape containing all my clips to record at 60fps instead of 29.97fps. I thought there was a way to force the AJ1200 to master tapes in such a way that they would retain media’s flagged frames. This would allow for laying back master clip tapes at 24fps and 60fps.

  • Gary Adcock

    January 31, 2006 at 11:33 am

    [ewin] “The media is not 24p it’s 720p 60. The footage was shot at 60fps and the FCP timeline containing my selected subsclips is 60fps. I don’t want the original clips’ timecode retained, I just want the new master tape containing all my clips to record at 60fps instead of 29.97fps.”

    All 720p footage has to play out as 720p over 60 frames –so then the lay-back to tape should be fine– as it will appear on output the same as it looks in your rendered FCP timeline. You may be confused in that the 60i or 60P timelines still use 29.97 as the time code base (29.97×2 = 59.94)

    Varicam Ops for the most part work at 24 or 30 fps, and shoot 60fps only for effect ( like the NBA)

    Gary Adcock
    Studio37
    HD and Film Consultation
    Chicago, IL USA

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