720/24P Clips From Mac to PC

[Russell Lasson]

I don’t have a clue on how to do this without loading QuickTime components that come with an editing software.

It seems silly that if you buy a P2 camera then you can’t view the files in QuickTime on windows or mac without buying editing software (ie. Final Cut Pro, Avid, and other P2 compatible software.) It makes compatibilty with other applications quite difficult.

It probably comes down to Panasonic making money off of the DVCPROHD codec, which they deserve. It’s probably licensed out to other companies. So we either need more companies to get licenses or have Panasonic package the components with the camera. The bare minimum would be to allow us to just buy the components, but that’s kind of a low blow for people who have already invested about $10K into the camera package.

If anyone knows of a work around or if there really are components that you can just download, please let me know!

Thanks,
Russ

[Barry Green]

FCP converts the files to Quicktime, but refuses to put DVCPRO-HD support in the PC version of Quicktime. So it’s historically been a one-way street; if you convert your files to Quicktime, you were pretty much locking them to the Mac hardware.

Users of EDIUS or Avid XPress Pro could use Mac Quicktimes but only within those apps; you can’t use a Mac DVCPRO-HD quicktime in PC AfterEffects, for example.

Marcus van Bavel of DVFILM has a new Quicktime reader for PCs that adds the kind of compatibility that Apple won’t; it lets PC users freely use Mac DVCPRO-HD Quicktime movies. That’s probably the tool you need to get; I think it’s just $95.

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[Gary Adcock]

[Barry Green] “FCP converts the files to Quicktime, but refuses to put DVCPRO-HD support in the PC version of Quicktime.”

This is no different than Avid not suppling there codecs cross platform, and it is Panasonic that controls DVCPROHD at the code and Licensing level and why doesn’t panasonic offer their own of the NATIVE codec for windows?

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gary adcock
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[Russell Lasson]

I don’t think that there are Mac DVCPROHD codec and a PC DVCPROHD codec. The codec is one and the same. The difference is whether or not the quicktime component is provided (which is either Mac or PC.) AVID Media Composer is both PC and Mac and supports DVCPROHD from P2. It’s just like H264 from iTunes. The file is the same for both PC and Mac, but you need the different PC or Mac QuickTime component to play it back.

It’s all about licensing the codec to different software companies.

-Russ

[Barry Green]

[gary adcock] “why doesn’t panasonic offer their own of the NATIVE codec for windows?”

They do. That’s the point. It’s freely available, installed on every PC where anyone’s installed P2 Viewer. CineForm uses it for their file conversion program. All Apple would have to do is create a Quicktime function call to the freely-installed, no-royalties-paid-to-anyone P2 Viewer codec and they’d have that functionality. It’s already there.

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