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  • Posted by Michael Rothman on May 3, 2007 at 2:50 pm

    Hello,
    I was wondering why so many set ups in FCP have a frame size of 720X480. I’m used to working on an avid where everything i loaded in was 720X486. I reciently loaded in from a DVCPRO50 tape, used that setting on my easy setup, and everything was 720X480. Now i need to get graphics made and there sending me them at 720X486. Not sure what to do to maintain a broadcast ready picture. Any wisdom would be helpful.
    Thanks

    Uli Kunkel replied 18 years, 7 months ago 8 Members · 20 Replies
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  • Walter Biscardi

    May 3, 2007 at 2:56 pm

    DV NTSC is 720×480 so all of those are set to that frame size. NTSC Uncompressed is 720×486.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    https://www.biscardicreative.com
    HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
    HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”

    Read my blog! https://blogs.creativecow.net/WalterBiscardi

  • Michael Rothman

    May 3, 2007 at 3:00 pm

    Is there anyway once the footage is digitized to change the footage to 720X486?

  • Walter Biscardi

    May 3, 2007 at 3:06 pm

    You can blow it up by scaling, but you don’t need to do this in FCP. You can edit in an uncompressed timeline and FCP will shift the video by one field.

    If you were cutting 720×486 on an Avid, then it was scaling up the video during capture, which you can easily do with an AJA Io or Kona product and set to capture uncompressed during ingest. But DV native frame size is 720×480, not 486.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    https://www.biscardicreative.com
    HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
    HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”

    Read my blog! https://blogs.creativecow.net/WalterBiscardi

  • Michael Rothman

    May 3, 2007 at 3:10 pm

    Thanks so much walter. I appreciate it.

  • David Roth weiss

    May 3, 2007 at 3:17 pm

    [mudbutter] “Is there anyway once the footage is digitized to change the footage to 720X486?”

    What are you outputting the finished product to?

    As Walter mentioned, 720×480 is the native pixel dimension of standard DV. The only reason Avid makes it 720×486 is because Avid works in pixel dimensions that are native to its video card, not the pixel dimensions native to the video source.

    DRW

  • Michael Rothman

    May 3, 2007 at 3:24 pm

    Thanks david for the insight. I will output to digi beta and dvd.

  • David Roth weiss

    May 3, 2007 at 4:15 pm

    Going out to D-Beta is a compelling case for cutting your project on an 8 or 10-bit timeline. It will automatically bump your video to 720×486 and will also preserve the integrity of the graphics your client has created.

    DRW

  • Gary Adcock

    May 3, 2007 at 4:22 pm

    [mudbutter] ” will output to digi beta and dvd.”

    then you get another twist…

    the Dbeta will be 720×486 via SDI or Component

    the DVD will be 720x 480

    the SD Mpeg stream is always going to be 720×480 whether it is on disc or over the air.

    gary adcock
    Studio37
    HD & Film Consultation
    Post and Production Workflows

  • Michael Rothman

    May 3, 2007 at 4:22 pm

    That’s the way i’ll go. I’ll just cut it in the 480 time line and in the end drop it into the 486, so i don’t have to render all the time. Thanks again david.

  • Michael Rothman

    May 3, 2007 at 4:24 pm

    do you have any ideas that you think would be a good solution? Or it is as it is.

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