720 P Still not fixed in 5.0.3

[Chris Tomberlin]

[Walter Biscardi] “Instead of concentrating on all this “Gee Whiz will you look at all the new features” it would be nice for the FCP team to actually keep basic functionality working.”

I could not agree with this more. Unfortunately, Apple marketing realizes that the slogan “Final Cut 5 – It actually works now!” doesn’t sell new copies of the software.

Chris Tomberlin
Editor/Compositor/Owner
OutPost Pictures

[Gary Adcock]

[Tom Wolsky] “Apple’s probably saying it’s AJA’s fault. What’s AJA saying about it?”

Tom
I am with Walter it is definitely a QT problem.
HDSDI capture of 720p 24 worked properly for me in QT7.01 using the same drivers.

Gary Adcock
Studio37
HD and Film Consultation
Chicago, IL USA

[Gary Adcock]

[Walter Biscardi] ” It’s not an AJA issue. 720p HD-SDI clips are perfect on the hard drives, FCP sees them as a subclip. AJA would not cause the application to read a correctly captured clip as a subclip.”

It’s in the difference in the length of the audio attached to the video file, when the SDI captures the footage it is almost always capturing the video at 24p but the audio is synced at 59.94 and QT does not know what to do so it subclips the info due to the time discrepancy of the TC between the 2 formats.

Gary Adcock
Studio37
HD and Film Consultation
Chicago, IL USA

[Robert Brown]

Does the same with a Black Magic card.

[Tom Wolsky]

I guess the only work flow you can sensibly use is to log and capture. Dump the captured material from the browser and reimport what you just batch captured. Certainly a pain.

[Tom Wolsky]

Apple might say QT is part of the operating system. Isn’t it the board manufacturer’s responsibility to write drivers that work with the OS? If an OS component changes it’s the third party’s responsibility to change the drivers. That said, obviously it should work, and should not have been broken in the QT development.

[David Bogie]

[Walter Biscardi] “Instead of concentrating on all this “Gee Whiz will you look at all the new features” it would be nice for the FCP team to actually keep basic functionality working.”

Amen, brothers and sisters.
Forget new features no one cares about or make a second application called, umm, Final Cut Pro Ultimate.
Fix the sh)(t that’s never worked.
Fix the sh)(t that gets broken between revs.
Gimme what every other NLE has had for five or more years. Gimme an elegant and slick interface that doesn’t require thinking about which drug the designers were on when they imposed some weird feature on the rest of us. Gimme stability. Gimme edit to tape. Gimme Firewire timecode. Gimme a way to turn off a track without losing days of renders. Gimme a world without AutoSelect. Gimme. Gimme.

Lord, I am sooo glad I’m not trying to do the stuff you guys are trying to do. I’m just assembling about ten layers of video, Motion and LT with 6 audio tracks in standard DV on a new, max’d out Dualie 2.7 G5. Sluggish as snot on a cold day. Wait wait wait. Today I really miss my old Media 100.

bogiesan

This is my standard sigfile so do not take it personally: “For crying out loud, read the freakin’ manual.”

[Walter Biscardi]

[bogiesan] “Lord, I am sooo glad I’m not trying to do the stuff you guys are trying to do. I’m just assembling about ten layers of video, Motion and LT with 6 audio tracks in standard DV on a new, max’d out Dualie 2.7 G5. Sluggish as snot on a cold day. Wait wait wait. Today I really miss my old Media 100.”

At least you got the dualie 2.7. When I did my last 27 track video comp, I was still running my Dual 1.25. that was like, Move the Video layer, wait 20 seconds, move the text layer, wait 15 seconds, move the alpha matte, wait 30 seconds, etc….

But I can say that I don’t miss my old Media 100 as I left around version 6 and it still only had 2 layers of video at that time.

I DO really miss the Up-Res / Re-Capture feature on it though. So simple and it worked every time.

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com

Now editing “Good Eats” in HD for the Food Network

“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters

[Tom Meegan]

Hi Robert,

I was on the other FCP system at the World Series. 5.0.2 with Kona 2.

I had the mysterious subclip with black video upon batch capture problem as well. Right-click, reveal in finder and drag the real file into browser and all was well. Not a pleasant work flow.

I talked with AJA a bit about some other issues that were solved by installing the new drivers, and I was lead to believe the subclip on batch capture problem was an issue with the Panasonic 1700 deck in particular.

Sorry I didn’t get a chance to stop by. The 16 hour days and travel got in the way somehow ;->

Drop me a line if you get a chance. I’d like to compare notes.

Be well.

Tom Meegan

[Tom Meegan]

Gary,

I saw this problem capturing 720p 59.97 fps video from a Panasonic 1700 deck.

Tom

ps The subclip freaked me out completely. Had to take several deep breathes before picking up the phone. All rental gear, set up quickly on site.