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720 25Pn Success stories?
Hi All,
I’m down here in Pal land, about to shoot a music clip on a HVX202EN and suddenly I find that everything I love about varicam is completely useless anywhere outside america. Now I know I should have done my research before promising the world, but coming from using the large Varicam, I assumed that we could at least have a work around solution but to not be able to read 25P or Pn files or any other frame rate captured on the camera in FCP is insane.
I have actually had to go back to the Record Label and embarrasingly sound out if they would inflate the budget to use the proper Varicam, that’s how not impressed I am.
But enough rant. I now know about P2 log and if I must, I will shell out for it, even though shooting on this was meant to help the budget. So, have any of you out there had good solid success recording both 720 25Pn and other variable rates, preferably with Cine like Gamma on, and easiy working with them in FCP?
I keep my fingers crossed for happy, speedy responses.
Cheers,
Toby Angwin
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5 Replies
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I had a few test files from a former camcorder shootout, and they worked with P2 Log. I’ll get my HVX200 (European) this afternoon and tell you more.
Regards,
Uli
Author of “DVDs gestalten und produzieren”, a book on professional DVD-authoring in German.
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I have being using P2 Log with 720p25 (recorded on Firestore, so not pN) and their 720p50 passthrough codec. Generally it works well for normal workflow. There do seem to be a few issues when you add effects. The image becomes ‘garbled’ in a way that suggests a codec and RT preview incompatibility. I have mostly found this with transfer modes, but others have been having it with CC and other effects. I’m not sure exactly where the issue lies, but it seems rendering the section solves this.
P2 Log is really a very low cost way to get into this and will certainly be cheaper than going for the Varicam. I suggest doing a few tests with the demo first, but if it works for you, $99 is well worth it.
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I’ve been successfull with 25pn and HD Log. The clips show up correctly in QT as 25p and I can use them in FCP. Unfortunately FCP wants to render even with the correct settings in the sequence, but I get orange (restricted RT) with the ‘unlimited’ setting. Apart from that, it works.
Regards,
Uli
P.S. I really like that camcorder!
Author of “DVDs gestalten und produzieren”, a book on professional DVD-authoring in German.
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Uli, it sounds like your sequence preset is not quite right as you should not be asked to render anything (without effects applied), even in full quality, safe RT.
Back to the garbled image issue; this is actually an issue caused by P2 Log (indirectly) since they ask you to remove a DVCPRO HD Quicktime component to use their 720p50 codec.
When you remove this component you will get the garbled images in FCP with some effects. Putting it back in means FCP now operates perfectly, this issue is cleared up, however you will now get the garbled image in P2 Log. This is their ‘bug’ and as far as I can see, should be easy to fix since their ref QT files play fine in QT Player.
I think having FCP operate normally is more important unless you are actually doing lots of data entry in P2 Log, in which case you’ll need to keep removing and replacing it! (perhaps an Applescript could save you some trouble).
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Mark -
Hi Toby
have you had any joy ?! I was considering an HVX-202 for a shoot i have coming up and was wondering if you’ve found a workable scenario…?
cheers, Daniel
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