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Mark Dobson
October 17, 2011 at 1:47 pmHi Christian,
Whilst we might all be unwitting beta testers I’ve yet to cut a 3 minute DSLR project on FCPX.
The programmes I’ve produced are normally about 10 -15 minute multi format productions which is where FCPX really shines.
Whilst there are numerous things to improve with this software it is already suitable for a wide variety of programme types. The biggest no no at the moment is for people who need to send parts of the programme out for audio mixing or colour correction and these issues are being actively addressed.
I dont’ need to get into complex sound mixes and, whilst i’m looking forward to Magic Bullet colour correction software being available for FCPX, I find the colour board actually really versatile especially when one adds multiple correction layers.
I’m trying to get my head around DaVinci Lite at the moment and am about to reinstall the Intensity Pro card back in the computer because if I can work out how to color correct with DaVinci Lite I will then have the reassurance of colour correcting on an external monitor through the Intensity Pro Card.
As for speed, well I suppose one could work really quickly with very simple projects but for me editing is as much a mental process as a technical one. I see it as a big jigsaw puzzle, easy once it’s finished, daunting at the beginning.
So the metadata handling capability of FCPX is a large part of what I’m enjoying learning about. And that alone is worth pursuing.
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Christian Schumacher
October 17, 2011 at 1:54 pmSteve, you wouldn’t recommend a V1 software, right?
But at the same time you’re gonna edit a feature with it, though?
WOW! talking about Knight-errant…
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Steve Connor
October 17, 2011 at 2:06 pmNo I said I wouldn’t recommend EVERYONE try it, I like change and relish a challenge, that doesn’t mean anyone who doesn’t is wrong.
I’ve made a measured decision to use it for paying work. If it lets me down or it throws up any major roadblocks I’ll stop using it, so far it hasn’t. I’ve enjoyed learning it and finding what it is capable of and for me in most respects it’s faster than FCP7
I’ve actually used much buggier software from both Avid and Adobe in the past.
“My Name is Steve and I’m an FCPX user”
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Christian Schumacher
October 17, 2011 at 2:23 pmOK, very strong argument you have there…
Just because sometime in a decade ago there were buggy NLEs
we’re supposed to embrace all buggyness now and just go for a V1 software ?Yeah, that’s a sound advice….not!
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Walter Soyka
October 17, 2011 at 2:27 pmHi Bill,
You wrote about the render/realtime differences between FCP7 and FCPX, but Premiere Pro can do quite a bit in realtime, too. I’m curious about your reaction to differences that are truly unique to FCPX — like the magnetic timeline versus the open timeline.
Personally, the thing I miss the most when I bounce from FCPX back to FCP7 or over to Premiere Pro is the skimmer (and by using a trackball instead of a mouse, I get real physical ballistics).
For me, though, missing the skimmer’s speed in other apps is counterbalanced by getting an “old school” open timeline back. I am not seeing advantages to the magnetic timeline in my work, so I’m legitimately curious to hear how others are using to improve their editorial process.
I’ve found that moving between FCPX and FCP7 makes me sad for what FCP8 could have been — moreso than it makes me excited for what FCPX is. There are many undeniably great little ideas in FCPX, but there are also a couple questionable big ones.
Walter Soyka
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Steve Connor
October 17, 2011 at 2:33 pm[Christian Schumacher] “OK, very strong argument you have there…
Just because sometime in a decade ago there were buggy NLEs
we’re supposed to embrace all buggyness now and just go for a V1 software ?Yeah, that’s a sound advice….not!
“Yes thats just what I’m saying, you’re not missing the point at all.
“My Name is Steve and I’m an FCPX user”
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Christian Schumacher
October 17, 2011 at 3:01 pm“I’ve enjoyed learning it and finding what it is capable of and for me in most respects it’s faster than FCP7
I’ve actually used much buggier software from both Avid and Adobe in the past.”
I’m sorry but that was what I’ve got from your earlier statement above.
Aren’t you saying that FCPX is much better than other NLE releases?
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Steve Connor
October 17, 2011 at 3:14 pm[Christian Schumacher] “”I’ve enjoyed learning it and finding what it is capable of and for me in most respects it’s faster than FCP7
I’ve actually used much buggier software from both Avid and Adobe in the past.”I’m sorry but that was what I’ve got from your earlier statement above.
Aren’t you saying that FCPX is much better than other NLE releases?
And aren’t you advocating the use of this software as it is?”I am saying that FCPX, as it stands, is less buggy than MANY other releases of Premiere, Avid and even FCP Classic, I am saying that I have been happy to try it out, so have many others but I WOULDN’t recommend it for everyone.
Is that clear enough?
“My Name is Steve and I’m an FCPX user”
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Christian Schumacher
October 17, 2011 at 3:37 pmThat’s fine, Steve. You’re clear.
Let me take this chance now to propose one thing.
Somebody in another thread asked for this already.The FCPX users that are into complex and/or long form projects
should post those timeline printscreens to show how far it goes.
Remember not to “size to fit” them though, ‘cos there’s a bug there, mind you…Don’t be shy, c’mon!
Share your adventures with the people.I expect all the high profile paying jobs won’t make it though,
due to the corporate privacy policies, but that’s OK.
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Rafael Amador
October 17, 2011 at 3:56 pmThe emotional toll for me is in FCP7 to FCPX.
With FC I felt at home since the very first day (didn’t happens with AVID and PP).
Was like be sitting in a full size edit suit, but much more powerful.
No learning curve; the only think took me a little, was to discover the “ENTER” key to manage Nests as clips (2002: no manuals, tutorials, internet, nobody to ask).With FCPX is the opposite. I feel lost.
I feel that my 25 years editing are not just of no help, but even a burden.
Is like starting from zero.
Needing a teacher get the basic concept of an NLE makes me really down.
rafael
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