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  • 50 to 59.94 or anything like that

    Posted by Daniel Miller on November 1, 2007 at 2:37 am

    Ok, bear with me here. This will make your head hurt. Some people I know are working on a film. They bought a PAL HVX200 and used a frame rate hack to get it to shoot 24p. Using this hack disables audio since it sees the 24 fps as “off speed”. To record sound they want to buy another HVX200, an NTSC HVX200 and record the sound to it.

    PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE dont flame me for this, I know its absurd. There are any number of ways to get around this, I know, but I said Id look into it. Im just trying to help a friend out who lacks the technical expertise (obviously) to handle the monster theyve unleashed.

    Ive never heard of this frame rate hack so I cant say exactly what it amounts to. I assume the camera records 24fps over 50, and that there is no way to do a 24pN as one would with an NTSC camera.

    My question is this: Once its all said and done and filming is finished, can cinematools conform the 24fps over 50 footage to either 23.976 fps OR take it to 24 fps over 59.94?

    They plan to do a film out, so in the end we need to get to 23.976, Im just not super familar with PAL conversions.

    I reposted this in a couple of places hoping for answers, If Im off topic in any of the other threads, please delete.

    Uli Plank replied 18 years, 6 months ago 2 Members · 1 Reply
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  • Uli Plank

    November 1, 2007 at 6:17 am

    We have such a little marvel and I may be able to help.

    Of course you can shoot in 24p with the hack, just do what cine folks have done for more than fifty years: separate audio recording and a clap.

    If the recording was done in 24p, the camera will have added fill frames in case you were not shooting in native mode. Then use the FRC (Frame Rate Converter) in FCP. If you don’t have it: there’s a free download from Panasonic.

    If it was shot in 50p, there are too possibilities:

    A) Drop every second frame withFCP and slow the resulting 25p version down to 24p (or 23.98) with the help of Cinema Tools. Voices and music will sound (close to) a semi-tone deeper. If you don’t want that, any good sound editing program can change speed without pich shift. This version can look jumpy if you didn’t use the camera like film folks would: very controlled movements, 1/50 th of a second shutter speed.

    B) Use it like video an do the conversion with Graeme Nattress’ G Converter.

    Hope this helps,

    Uli

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