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4K might become a reality quicker than we think
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“BMD have just announced their 4K camera is now shipping and they’ve dropped the price to $2,995!”
now I’m very curious to see the price of the GH4 and that brick combined!
Also: The BMD4K can do recording on SSD’s and has great dynamic range and has a bigger sensor so I’d love to see a comparison of the image quality.All in all in the end Black Magic might still have an edge over the GH4 unless the GH has a really competitive price tag.
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[Steve Connor] “not because the customer pays for it “
Speaking of spot on, they certainly won’t pay for it.
It’s amazing to watch camera manufactures cannibalize themselves.
How many will pay almost 30k for an f55 now that a two thousand dollar 4k is out there.
How does that drive down the day rate slowing down the paying off of an expensive camera.
interesting times.
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[tony west] “When I think about how many stations and multi million dollar remote trucks I do sports out of that would have to toss their cameras out, I feel like it’s gonna be a while for the networks.”
I do feel that 4K has a place in sports, with all the gee-whiz video effects they do, having a 4K origination from the camera to do 60p and do a crisp digital zoom in on the action (if outputting 720p60 or even 1080), that might be something that starts replacing those cameras with 4K equivalents.
Of course, getting 4K 60p in the first place requires a helluva lot of bandwidth.
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[John Heagy] “The only thing more pointless than 4K in the home, is 4K at 24fps.”
Even more pointless than 3D? 🙂
Shawn
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[Andre van Berlo] “now I’m very curious to see the price of the GH4 and that brick combined!
Also: The BMD4K can do recording on SSD’s and has great dynamic range and has a bigger sensor so I’d love to see a comparison of the image quality.All in all in the end Black Magic might still have an edge over the GH4 unless the GH has a really competitive price tag.”
The ability to shoot 4K directly in Prores HQ is a huge plus for me. And they dropped the price, I wonder what they will announce at NAB?
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[Darren Roark] “The ability to shoot 4K directly in Prores HQ is a huge plus for me.”
There is that too. I wonder how many people will see 8 bit 4:2:0 recording as a deal breaker when compared to 10/12 bit ProRes 422 and (later) compressed CinemaDNG. To me, it’s a no brainier – ProRes/cDNG/global shutter handily beats every other feature on the GH4k… I don’t even care about the sensor size, as I really like M43rds. I wonder if these cameras even appeal to the same markets.
Shawn
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[Shawn Miller] “To me, it’s a no brainier – ProRes/cDNG/global shutter handily beats every other feature on the GH4k…”
Agreed. Speaking as a whip pan enthusiast, global shutter is especially appealing!
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[Darren Roark] “I wonder what they will announce at NAB?”
You heard it here first: a time machine, bus-powered over Thunderbolt 2 or USB 3.
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[tony west] “When I think about how many stations and multi million dollar remote trucks I do sports out of that would have to toss their cameras out, I feel like it’s gonna be a while for the networks.”
Precisely. Not only cameras, but switchers, converters, frame syncs, everything. You might as well back that truck right in to the ocean (or lake, since I live near one of the magnificent Great Lakes).
And then there’s delivery. Think if you’re a huge satellite or cable provider, you have to provide a new decoder box with new hardware to your subscribers.
As a consumer, you have to replace a fairly new TV with a brand new 4k TV. Besides Seiki, 4k TVs are typically $5,000 – $20,000+. Of course this price will change, but for now, the one guy in the neighborhood who had a laserdisc/projector setup will be the guy who has the one 4k TV in the neighborhood streaming 4k YouTube videos.
4k delivery, in my opinion, will mostly be an IP based delivery at first. It will be a splintered delivery on top of a fairly fractured market. Amazon will release a 4k IP box, Apple may release a 4K ready IP box, Roku, etc, and BluRay will release a 4k recommendation to be licensed by the major manufacturers, but delivered via IP.
Broadcast is going to take a long while.
4k acquisition, though, is here for the most part. Personally, we don’t shoot 4k all of the time, but we do use it as a tool on certain gigs.
I think once you see Arri make a 4k Alexa, 4k will have arrived as there will be a true reason behind the resolution, whatever that may be.
Jeremy
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[Shawn Miller] “Even more pointless than 3D? :-)”
another good point… at least one can see 3D.
4K 3D actually has some merit if one shoots each eye in 1080 and merges to 4K stereo for delivery.
John
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