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  • 4:3 to 16:9 FCpro plugin

    Posted by Ian Corbin on December 19, 2008 at 3:58 pm

    Does anyone know of a plugin that can take a 4:3 frame and stretch the sides to fit a 16:9 frame? That way the middle of the frame where the eye is mainly focused stays relatively untouched. There are some standards converter hardware units that can do this really nicely, but I was wondering if there was a plugin for that kind of translation.

    Misha Mazor replied 14 years, 7 months ago 8 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Rafael Amador

    December 19, 2008 at 4:17 pm

    Ian,
    You don’t need any plugin to achieve that.
    Drop your 4×3 movie in a 16×9 sequence and move the center up or down
    Rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Mike Levine

    December 19, 2008 at 4:33 pm

    I think Andy’s Elastic Aspect might be what you’re looking for…

    https://web.me.com/andymees/Free_and_Easy/main/Entries/2008/3/3_Andy%E2%80%99s_Elastic_Aspect.html

  • Liam Lawyer

    December 19, 2008 at 4:34 pm

    I think what he is asking is something that does that thing they do on TNT where the middle 30% is the same but the sides are stretched to fill out. So it isn’t just blowing it up, but more of a dynamic fill and you lose no part of the image.

    That being said, I have never heard of a plugin that does that. Doesn’t mean that it isn’t out there though!

    Sorry!

    Liam Lawyer
    -editor-

  • Andy Mees

    December 19, 2008 at 4:36 pm

    you’re welcome to try my Elastic Aspect plugin
    https://web.me.com/andymees

  • Trevor Ward

    December 19, 2008 at 4:40 pm

    If that’s really what he wants, I would suggest NOT using it. It really looks horrible. It distorts the image and unless it’s a static shot of an interview or something, you really CAN notice the warping. It looks like something is wrong. Better to have the whole image stretched or squeezed.

    On another note, what exactly IS 16×9 standard def? I’ve been asked to deliver a bunch of 16×9 stuff. My source material is regular DV (720×480). Is 16×9 720×480 but where the pixels are not square? So when I drop my footage into the timeline, should I change it’s aspect ratio via the Motion tab or should I just blow up the image to 133% and reposition so I’m not cutting off the head in my footage?

    -trevor ward
    Red Eye Film Co.
    http://www.redeyevideoproductions.com
    orlando, fl

  • Ian Corbin

    December 19, 2008 at 4:45 pm

    Thanks,
    This sounds like what I’m looking for.
    Ian

  • Andy Mees

    December 19, 2008 at 5:38 pm

    Well, gee Trevor, I guess you didn’t like it huh? Don’t pull any punches mate 😉

    The settings are actually pretty flexible, and if you follow the hints on the webpage you can get reasonable results that are (for many) preferable to a fully stretched image. As with the smart anamorphic algorithms used in many widescreen TV’s these days, its always a good idea to start by adding a little stretch even within the protected area. Then you need to remember to keep the elasticity really low (as noted on its webpage, I kept the control unfettered so that folks could have full creative control but I don’t recommend high values)

    Try some safer settings maybe eg Protection Width between 25 to 40, Protection Override between 3 to 5 and Elasticity around 1 to 3

    Hope that helps you get a bit better mileage out of it .. you can also send me feedback from my webpage or you can find my direct email is in my COW profile. Can’t necessarily promise to actually do anything about it but certainly more likely to happen if I know what folks do or don’t like.

    Re your other questions about 16:9 Anamorphic. Yes, you need to create and edit in a 16:9 Anamorphic (SD) timeline, then when you drop 4:3 SD footage into it, it needs to be blown up to 133% to conform to the full frame width and then reframed accordingly.

    Hope it helps
    Andy

  • John Pale

    December 19, 2008 at 8:17 pm

    Andy,

    Just downloaded and used your plug in after reading this thread.

    Worked great in this instance. (I can see that it depends on the image….I totally understand it not working at all with other types of footage) This was a host standup on the beach…basically just the sun and surf behind them…couldn’t tell at all. Much easier than layering and stretching with the motion tab.

  • Trevor Ward

    December 19, 2008 at 10:34 pm

    Sorry. Didn’t mean to offend you. It’s not that I think your plug in is no good. I haven’t used it. But usually I can tell if a program was meant for 4×3 and then partially stretched to fill 16×9. My church does it. Actually the TV’s do it automatically. Samsung. They look like I’m watching something on a fun house with those crazy mirrors. Like I said, I’d prefer the whole thing stretched or the whole thing cropped.

    -trevor ward
    Red Eye Film Co.
    http://www.redeyevideoproductions.com
    orlando, fl

  • Misha Mazor

    September 29, 2011 at 6:33 pm

    Anyone know a plugin like this for After Effects??

    Thanks,
    Misha

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