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  • 3D in Sony Vegas?

    Posted by Emil Niemi on April 20, 2010 at 4:57 pm

    I would want to create those so called ‘MMV’ (maple music video).
    I do have experiences with Sony Vegas abit, but just the 3D part i haven’t looked through.
    So i really need help.

    Here’s also a that called ‘MMV’ which is created in Sony Vegas:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BogcYNnWjKw

    The pictures (character and background etc) are no problems, that i can get myself.
    But the problem is the 3D scene, how its built up.

    This is what i’ve been trying to do:

    1. I’m creating a few video layers and put in pictures to each of them.

    2. I switch the ‘blending mode’ to ‘3D Source Alpha’ for ALL the layers i want to make 3D.

    3. I go into ‘Track Motion’ to each of the layers to set up my 3D scene (moving back a character for example, spin a background abit etc).

    Now the problem comes, how do i connect them? Example in After Effects i can create a camera which i can fly around with in 3D, but doesn’t work to add cameras to Sony Vegas?

    I’ve been looking for those ‘compositing child’ which i was guess it works like the ‘parent’ function in After Effects.

    So i also tried to press on this ‘make composition child’ on all layers except the one at the top which is a ‘parent’ layer to all these ‘child’ layers?

    Which made me think if i use the top layer that are the parent, to track motion i can move all the layers in same time.
    But it doesn’t work.

    So how do i create it?

    Found also this video there they’ve done that too
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtm_A8MAmaY

    Right now, i was think of if i do have to save my project file and then open the project file inside an existing project?
    (so if i save my project 2 times, i put in the one that was saved the first time which isn’t open right now, into the existing project that i have open, and delete all the layers except the project i just imported, and from there i may be able to rotate and such?)

    Or is there another way i’m doing in it? Because if i do this, when i’ll have to edit the files, i need go back to the other project and change it, and maybee even change it to the new project, that has this project inside.

    (hope you understanded).

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    John Rofrano replied 16 years ago 3 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Theo Van laar

    April 20, 2010 at 9:00 pm

    You can place all your events on their own track in 3D space using the 3D source alpha mode.
    Next you can create an empty track above all the tracks with the events.
    Make all the tracks a child of the empty upper track. Now this empty track will not only have the track motion button in the track header, but also an parent motion button (completely on the left side of the track header). You can use the parent motion window to move all the events in the child-tracks as one object.

    Theo

  • John Rofrano

    April 20, 2010 at 10:58 pm

    Which made me think if i use the top layer that are the parent, to track motion i can move all the layers in same time. But it doesn’t work. So how do i create it?

    You got really close… Just to reiterate what Theo said, it’s the Parent Motion that you want to use to act as a camera and make the child tracks move in unison.

    Like this:

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Emil Niemi

    April 21, 2010 at 5:27 am

    Thanks, but i don’t find the Z axis in the track motion :S
    I even tried to make the parent head layer to a 3D layer but still no Z axis pops up so i can zoom in and zoom out with all the layers at same time, because that should work too?

  • John Rofrano

    April 21, 2010 at 10:21 am

    Follow my tutorial:

    3D Parent Motion: Moving Planes

    and it will all become clear. You probably didn’t place the parent motion into 3D mode which would give you a Z axis.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Emil Niemi

    April 21, 2010 at 1:43 pm

    Oh yes, that was the problem.

    But right now i runned into a problem when i was going to try it out, to move stuffs in the Z space etc.

    I made a some layers, and made them all to 3D.
    On one layer i put the floor (didn’t move anything in the Z axis)
    Another layer i put in the girl character (didn’t move anything in the Z axis)

    And another there the guy sitting i moved abit back in the Z space, and so did i with that red/dark background so it wouldn’t hide that guy sitting.

    But here comes the problem, when i moved back the background its no possibles it can fill in the space around. You see in the X axis, it doesn’t fill in, inside the preview window.
    But inside this pan/crop window you can see that it SHOULD fill it in.

    The project i made 1280×720 (HDV)
    And in width and height i made 1280×720 inside the pan/crop and then i locked the aspect ratio and center, and scaled it down so everything would be shown, but it doesn’t.

    I’ve to grow the solid layer in some way? (like in ae), but how?

    Here’s the picture

    https://img687.imageshack.us/img687/8014/problemah.jpg

  • John Rofrano

    April 28, 2010 at 10:02 am

    …when i moved back the background its no possibles it can fill in the space around. You see in the X axis, it doesn’t fill in, inside the preview window.

    Sorry I missed this post. Did you figure out than when you move a layer back in Z space you have to resize it larger to maintain perspective? Likewise if you move something closer you need to resize it smaller so that it all fits back into the original image dimensions.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

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