2K film output

[Richard Bartlett]

Yes mostly. There isn’t an option to “proxy me up” in the menu or the native capture module.

For HD/HDV work tools such as GearShift can be used for those who like to sit at 1000ft whilst the work goes on below.

Otherwise, if you know how to convert the files already, and have both sets available. Windows explorer can do the walking for you. Keep the names the same, and ideally the file extensions and the codec can vary wildly. I suppose this would also be true for stills if the compression ratio/strength was changed drastically between main and proxy.

Anyway, the feature is there at any res supported. Vegas supports 2K 8bit RGBA natively on the pipeline.
You can scale upto 8K 80Mbps (from my recollection) via the provided MPEG-2 codec, fwiw.

[Dr. Dropout]

Vegas can easily hop between low and high rez files of like type (.png senquences, .avi’s etc). Make a mirrored file set at a different resolution and do a “forced-relink” during a project reload to the hi-rez when cutting is done. A little housekeeping but minimal.

Q’s:

What frame rate will you be working in?

How will you be monitoring during the Vegas part of the job (HD-SDI?)

What does your lab want as a final file type for the film-out?

What lab do you plan to use for this?

[Marcus Frakes]

The “force relink” steps…is it a simple renaming of files under Explorer, then browsing to the original source under Vegas?

Q’s:

What frame rate will you be working in? :: 25FPS

How will you be monitoring during the Vegas part of the job (HD-SDI?) :: TBD

What does your lab want as a final file type for the film-out? :: a Hard drive will be returned to the Production company

What lab do you plan to use for this? :: Again production will handle this.

We are only responsible for about 3 minutes of Visual effects on 10 shots. But we will receive and deliver in 10-Bit Film 2K resolution. I’m guessing Vegas cannot handle this level?? Maybe ver 7.0 will have more teeth to do the job??

[Richard Bartlett]

Sorry I wasn’t aware of the forced re-link option. That will be a “stay within the editor” menu/project-reload function. Creating the media in the separate folders (a bit like bins but everyone knows what they are!) will be upto you in your earlier part of the workflow (in Vegas or otherwise).

Vegas does do a good job of conversion to an output format with a different dynamic range, pedestal or DC reference. DV/D1-tapes are 4:2:2 YUV/YUY2 and it sits those pixels nicely into an 8bit RGB space pipeline and back out to 4:4:4:4 BGRA32 if you wish.

However, 10bit RGB or YUV output, or an HDR output would be stretching it’s abilities. There are some hooks for taking an edit from cheap Vegas workstations and doing an abbreviation of what the project might have originally done in Xpri, but I almost nothing about it than that. I’m not sure what that workflow would offer other than added cost to try to escape compromise.

There is always the chance that your production people wouldn’t notice that your work had become 8bit RGB if you convert the final Vegas render using an dynamic range expanding converter into 10bit. The same argument for how Vegas manages DV/D1 for itself given the different pixel container it has to migrate into.

So where are you right now? Are you experienced Vegas editors that want to add this special job using the tools you already know, or are you out shopping for an NLE?

[Donatello]

i have a project that was scanned 10bit 2k res ..also contains some 10 bit 1920×1080 (inverse anamorphic) 23.976 clips
i made lo res ( DV template) copy of files – now editing ..

modify a existing Vegas template for the 2k files or when you render out to 2k … take the HD 60i 1080 1920×1080 template then go into the template and manually change the 1920 & 1080 setting to 2k pixels setting .. then change the framet rate to 23.976 ( if you are working with frames then you can use 24fps)and change field order to progressive ..

what i have noticed – my 2k & HD files are 10 bit – IMO 8 bit rendering isn’t doing it for one of my projects ( very dark B&W scenes – lots of dark tones ) .. the other project is bright daylight and 8 bit is no problem …if i do a film out on either project i will online ( final render) on a 10/16 bit capable program ..