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29.97 to 23.98 timeline and recapture
Posted by Dmoney1429 on November 5, 2007 at 2:44 amDoes anyone have a suggestion on how to go from a 29.97 timeline to a 23.98 timeline?
We are currently cutting on a 29.97 timeline with the following formats
40 percent P2 720 24pn footage,
15 percent DV 29.97
20 Percent DV 24P (DVX100),
10 percent HDCAM,
15 percent Beta.Eventually we are going to upres and recapture footage.
Should we export the 29.97 timeline EDL and then use Cinema Tools to convert the EDL to 24FPS?
Thanks in advance.
Will Eccleston replied 18 years, 6 months ago 4 Members · 9 Replies -
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Jeremy Garchow
November 5, 2007 at 4:32 pmThat’s weird, must be the same guy. His specs are exactly the same.
Or it’s just a coincidence.
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Dmoney1429
November 5, 2007 at 4:56 pmJeremy- We are working on the same project. Thanks for all your help.
I’m just concerned we are going to have to recut the whole movie in a 23.98 timeline.
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Jeremy Garchow
November 5, 2007 at 5:26 pmHey, No worries.
So you have already cut the project or have begun to cut it? I didn’t glean that from the first thread.
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Dmoney1429
November 5, 2007 at 7:00 pmWe have already cut most of the project which is on a 29.97 timeline with mixed frame rate footage on the timeline.
I’m not concerned with the P2 footage because it’s already 23.98.
I’m worried about the other footage and losing the in’s and out’s when we go to a 23.98 timeline.
Hopefully that’s a bit clearer.
Thanks.
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Jeremy Garchow
November 5, 2007 at 7:14 pmIf you read my other post, it pretty much outlines the work you have ahead of you.
Plan for a couple of days of conforming to get this project correct.
https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/8/961191
If you have any more specific questions, respond in that thread to keep it all simple and concise.
Jeremy
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Sean Oneil
November 6, 2007 at 6:15 am[dmoney1429] “I’m worried about the other footage and losing the in’s and out’s when we go to a 23.98 timeline”
Whenever people post their confusion about this (and I hear you – it is all very confusing), there is one thing people never seem to wrap there heads around…
Final Cut can store 29.97 timecode within 23.98 footage (and vice-versa). That means when you convert your 29.97 footage to 23.98, it will still have the original 29.97 TC. Thus you will NOT lose your in and out points when you reconnect the converted media.
Even if your conversion tool (After Effects, Compresser, a plugin, etc.) tosses out the original TC, you can re-assign it in FCP using “Modify -> Timecode”.
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Jeremy Garchow
November 6, 2007 at 2:37 pmIn a way. The 720p23.98N footage has 23.98 timecode, the HDcam cam material has 23.98 timecode. So it’s not exactly cut and dry on this one.
Jeremy
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Sean Oneil
November 6, 2007 at 4:33 pmDoesn’t matter. You can mix different types of TC on the same sequence (which I assume is what he did). His concern is that once he converts the 29.97 footage to 23.98, he’s afraid he’ll lose his edit decisions for those clips because the TC will be different – but it won’t be.
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Will Eccleston
November 7, 2007 at 4:59 pmIn my experience, multiple times, when I copy footage from a 29.97 timeline and paste it into a 23.98 timeline, ANY clip that I’ve changed the speed of or reversed will be incorrect by a HUGE amount in the new timeline. I’m talking minutes or more off, without a discernable offset that I’ve seen.
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