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24PA Capture Problems in FCP
Hi
I shot in 24PA and am capturing “advanced pulldown”.
When I bring these into Final Cut, my 23.97 timeline requires the footage to be rendered. Shouldn’t it already be 24fps and need no rendering? It plays without rendering in a 29.98 timeline.
I checked the quicktime files and it is indeed 24fps..
why doesnt FCP recognize this? Any wisdom?
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10 Replies
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How did you capture?
-Noah
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Captured with FCP’s “Advanced Pulldown” option.
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But more specifically- using the Easy Setup- 29.97 with Advanced Pulldown removal? Any time there is rendering required that indicates a mismatch between your clip settings and your sequence settings. And if they are playing on a 29.97 timeline without rendering they are 29.97.
Noah
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Yes, the easy preset 29.97 Advanced Pulldown is what I used.
It plays without rendering in the 29.97 timeline, yet when I check the info on the clip in Quicktime, it says it’s 24fps. When I try to use FCP’s “Remove Advanced Pulldown” option, it gives me an error.
So this is why I dont understand, Quicktime says its 24 whereas FCP, even though I captured using the correct setting, will not put it into the 24 timeline without having to render it.
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Sounds like it was likely shot in 24p rather than 24p advanced. You can check by playing out to firewire- go frame by frame. If every fifth frame is interlaced, it’s 24pA. If every 3 frames, 2 frames are interlaced- it’s 24p.
Noah
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i checked that.
when playing the footage in camera, if you toggle the counter button, it tells you 60I, 24P, 24PA…this was 24PA
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Well then perhaps you captured in too large a chunk. For example if there are time code breaks on a tape and you capture in big chunks rather than take by take it will sometimes not work with automatic pulldown removal. Bottom line- 24p clips do not play without rendering in a 29.97 timeline.
Noah
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hmm, then shouldn’t the “removed advanced pulldown” option in FCP work?
also, how does this make sense with quicktime displaying the properties as 24 fps.. ? If it was 24P, then it would show 29.97fps.
thanks for your help..
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No the remove AP will not work across broken timecode. I suggest a recapture in smaller clips.
Noah
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You might also want to try the “Conform” button in cinema tools…. this has helped fix similar bad mojo.
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