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  • 24pa break in cadence pattern

    Posted by Jeff Arak on November 19, 2008 at 3:07 am

    I’m shooting in 24pA I shot on my dvx100B and I`m having trouble capturing with the 2:3:3:2 (advanced) pulldown into FCP. I drop frames and some sections don’t even capture at 24fps. I thought that it might be because my mac isnt powerfull enough but it’s brand new. I am using FCP 5- which may be a problem since I also have QT 7.5.5 and Mac OS 10.5.5. So compatibility might be the culprit.

    Thinking that maybe only the capture process was affected, I tried “Remove Advanced Pulldown” from the tools menu on a clip I captured at 30i, hoping to convert it back to 24p to edit on a 24fps timeline but got this error message: “Break in Advanced Pulldown cadence (pattern) found near t.”. So I tried “cinema tools reverse telecine” (also from the tools menu) which converted the 30fps clip into 24fps. It looks fine but I don´t know if this does the same job as the advanced pulldown? Have you ever encountered problems with the advanced pulldown using FCP 5? Is “Reverse Telecine” the same?

    Dan Chapman replied 17 years, 5 months ago 3 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Sean Oneil

    November 19, 2008 at 6:33 am

    Are there timecode breaks in your capture?

    Sean

  • Jeff Arak

    November 19, 2008 at 10:34 pm

    While capturing, the log and capture window says that its looking for timecode breaks three or four times per tape, and when the capture is done, it has split my footage into four or five pieces. IT DOESN”T ALWAYS do this in the SAME PLACES however, which makes me think that the problem isn’t with the footage. The strangest thing is that, of the four or five pieces, maybe two will actually capture at 24fps and the others will capture at 30.

  • Dan Chapman

    December 9, 2008 at 9:30 pm

    I just captured a continuous tape the same way as Jeff and got the same result. Actually two tapes of concert footage we’re trying to make into a DVD. One of the tapes had a camera stop in the middle, but the second one was fully continuous. We want to use 90% of the material, so capturing the whole tape was the way to go.

    Now what do I do? I get that same message (!!! Break in Advanced Pulldown cadence (pattern) found near t.) I shot on a DVX100 with 24PA.

    What’s “t”?

    FCP 5.1.4
    OSX 10.4.11
    Quicktime 7.5.5

    Dan

  • Dan Chapman

    December 9, 2008 at 10:00 pm

    [Dave LaRonde] “The only sure-fire way to capture and remove pulldown from those tiny little pea-shooter DV tapes shot at 24pa is this:
    * Capture INDIVIDUAL SHOTS only.
    * Make sure the in & out time codes of the clips are within the individual shots. Obviously, you need sufficient rolloff at the head & tail of the shot to do this.”

    Hi Dave,

    I think I started capturing too close to the beginning of my tape. Can I correct this now that I’ve captured, by setting new in and out points, then media managing? That way the offending heads and tails will be cut. But will I be able to remove pull down after this? I’ll try it.

    Or should I just re-capture again leving more space in the beginning and end?

    Dan

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