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24p to 30p workflow + codec fun
We’re working on a project. We shot the interviews 24p(n) on the HVX200 (960×720). There is a mixed bag of field footage, but a majority of the (usable) footage was shot 30p on an HV30 (1440×1080).
We ingested the HV30 via firewire and we’re editing it natively as HDV.
We use Raylight MX to create the QT Ref Files for MXF files, and have been editing it DVCPRO HD 720 24p (23.98)
Now it’s time to start marrying the sections and I’m at a loss as to the best way to get it all onto one timeline.
Caveats:
1. Our finally delivery spec is DVD and Web.
2. The 30p HDV footage looks horrible at 24p, so I’m thinking getting everything to 30p ProRes 1280×720Here’s what I’ve tried so far to get the HVX/24p to ProRes/30p:
1. Just putting the interview footage onto the final sequence (looks bad, long renders)
2. Using JES Deinterlacer we’ve tried a)direct AIC (looks ok, but not ideal) b)Export to ProRes (weird gamma shift, loses 4 discreet audio channels)
3. Compressor to ProRes – Don’t know if I’m missing something in the settings, but I see considerably worse jaggies from Compressor/ProRes than w/ JES. Weird. And… Compressor is SLOW!4. One other thought, and I just don’t know enough about Raylight to know if setting the destination to 29.97 and not remove pulldown will work. Anyone tried this?
Anyone have any workflow recommendations?
Gracias.
Michael
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Michael
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I’ve actually been wondering the same thing. I have one project all shot with the HVX 200 at 720p24PN and another project shot at 720p30PN. While working on a 3rd project I realized I could use some of the extra footage from both projects in the new one. That project is 30 PN. I’ve used the Compressor method to convert my 24p footage to 30 fps and it looks ok but there’s some bad sections with a lot of motion and motion blur. I’ve heard After Effects can add in pulldown to properly convert 24p to 30p or 29.97 but I don’t have it.
Is there another way to do this in FCS 2?
OS 10.5.5, Mac Pro 2 x 3 ghz quad-core intel xenon, 9 gb ram, with BM Intensity Pro card
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I have encountered the a simular situation. I started out editing with DVCpro 720p 24pn footage and then some shots came in that where shot 720p 30pn (some panshots that needed to be smoother). There was also some HDV footage from a HV30.
I started up editing the 24pn footage in a 23.98 fps sequence. I then created a new DVCpro 720p 60fps sequence, copied the 24pn footage to this timeline and started editing the 30pn and HDV footage in this timeline as well. The HV30 footage was offcourse scaled down a bit, being it was 1080i and (1440×1080). I then rendered it all together in the 60fps timeline.
I am by far not a professional editor and don’t have a technical understanding of have the stuff, so this probably isn’t the best way (maybe even a terrible way) of combining the footage, but it worked ok for me. If you figure out a workflow that does the trick, I would be very much interested.
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