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  • 24p… OOPS, I think I FUBARed this one!

    Posted by Chris Bové on October 18, 2005 at 5:19 pm

    Hey MichaelP and all other 24p masters. Got a rough one for ya…

    Facts:
    – Indie short shot on Canon XL2 in 24pA (24p Advanced mode – 2:3 pulldown done in the camera).
    – Digitized into Avid Adrenaline HD in a 23.976 project.

    Problem: When we play the originally digitized footage in the Avid, some of it is jerky… as if the Canon’s own internal 2:3 pulldown process sucks… and some of it is just fine.

    Question: is miniDV 24pA a bad way to shoot?
    – If so, should I recommend 24p ONLY and not 24pA from now on?
    – If not, did I mess up by putting pre-pulled down material into a 23.976 project?

    The BIG Questions:
    – If I messed it up by putting 24pA footage in a 23.976 project, is there a way to correct by creating another project and transferring media? 30i? 24p?
    – How would audio be effected?

    I’m wondering if the cinematographer accidentally shot in both 24p and 24pA – depending on the day. Man, that would suck… although great for me cuz I didn’t FUBAR this one… ?

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    \`(=)`/…Pixel Monkey
    `(___)

    Chris Bové replied 20 years, 9 months ago 2 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Dom Silverio

    October 18, 2005 at 6:20 pm

    For Mini DV 24p material 23.976 is the correct project setting. Pulldown is dictated by the camera setting. Which pulldown? Depends on how you are going to finish and distribute.

    I prefer traditional pulldown. Nevertheless, XPro and Adrenaline can handle both.

    You can mix DV 24p and 24pA in the same project. You just need to make sure you adjust the pulldown setting prior to capturing. I would batch capture all 24pA at the same time to prevent mistakes.

    Regarding the ‘jerkiness’ make sure you have the pulldown frame set to A.
    Also, what version of Adrenaline do you have?
    Are all clips have a starting TC ending with 0 or 5?

  • Chris Bové

    October 19, 2005 at 4:02 pm

    [mpe] “Regarding the ‘jerkiness’ make sure you have the pulldown frame set to A.
    Also, what version of Adrenaline do you have?
    Are all clips have a starting TC ending with 0 or 5?”

    * Pulldown frame set to A – alright, I’ll make sure.
    * Adrenaline v2.1.5
    * Starting TC ending with 0 or 5? – …huh?

    ______
    /-o-o-\
    \`(=)`/…Pixel Monkey
    `(___)

  • Dom Silverio

    October 20, 2005 at 4:00 am

    Look at your clips. The Starting TC values – does it end with 5s or 0s?

    If not then you are missing the pulldown frame.

  • Chris Bové

    October 26, 2005 at 4:44 pm

    Problem solved. The footage was shot randomly at 24p, 24pA, and 30i. Looks like the DP forgot to check every time the camera was powered up.

    I wonder if I create a 30i project and recreate the edits… we’ll see.

    ______
    /-o-o-\
    \`(=)`/…Pixel Monkey
    `(___)

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