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  • 24p edit in 23.98 or 29.97?

    Posted by Sung H. kim on April 7, 2005 at 5:45 pm

    I’ve been reading old posts, but couldn’t seem to find the exact answers. Sorry if this has been discussed already.

    We have footage from the DVX-100 (shot 24pa) and SDX-900 (regular 24p, 16×9). Our final product will be a DVCPro50 video master, and DVD.

    1) I’ve read that we should edit in a 23.98 sequence, mainly to avoid mpeg weirdness when preparing for DVD. Is this true?

    2) If so, what kind of image quality hit will we lose because we are doing a 3:2 pulldown vs. 2:3:3:2? It seems that, as far as the video master is concerned, we’ll remove then add pulldown. Will we take an image quality hit? Is it worth it?

    3) Do we explicitly add pulldown, when outputting to a VTR (over firewire), or does FCP do it automatically?

    4) FCP can do 2:3:3:2 pulldown but not 3:2? We need Cinema Tools to do it?

    I guess a different way of asking these questions is to ask if there is any reason to edit as straight 29.97? Thank you!!

    –Sung H. Kim
    su****@*****ll.net

    Graeme Nattress replied 21 years, 2 months ago 2 Members · 3 Replies
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  • Graeme Nattress

    April 7, 2005 at 7:37 pm

    Your workflow for best quality is:

    Remove advanced pulldown from the DV. Use the batch exporter to convert it to DVCpro50 codec.
    Use Cinema Tools to remove 3:2 pulldown from the DVCpro50

    Edit everything in a 23.98fps DVCpro50 timeline.

    Export a 23.98fps movie. Open it in compressor to make a 23.98fps MPEG2 file for your DVD. The DVD player will add 3:2 pulldown on playback, thus you’re recording the max possible quality on DVD.

    Graeme

    http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects for FCP

  • Sung H. kim

    April 7, 2005 at 8:24 pm

    Thank you! Makes good sense to me.

    One follow-up question. I also have DVX-100 footage (24pa). I’ll have to re-encode it to DVCPro50 at some point. What’s the best time to do this? During capture, since I have to do a 2:3:3:2 pulldown?

    The sequence will be DVCPro50, but at 16×9, and the DVX-100 footage was shot letterboxed. I don’t think I can avoid resizing, is that true? I guess that’s two questions. Thank you again!!

    –Sung H. Kim
    sungka@pacbell.net

  • Graeme Nattress

    April 7, 2005 at 9:16 pm

    Capture, remove pulldown then convert would be safest, I think. As for scaling – no way to avoid that.

    Graeme

    http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects for FCP

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