24 regular vs. advanced and finalcut question

[Noah Kadner]

It’s the opposite. 24pA gives you super easy capturing to 24p and you lose no quality. 24pN gives you a lot of work to resolve to 24p and you lose a generation.

Noah

[David Battistella]

I have heard that for 29.97 finished 24pN is the way to go, but it would be hard to do a filmout, etc in this mode. Graeme natress has developed an advanced pullown converter that helps with 24Pa footage for a 29.97 sequence.

http://www.nattress.com

for a 24frame DVD you should use the 24Pa mode.

Noah, thouhgts on this?

David

[Keith Hill]

I’ve had my DVX100A for over a year now and have done approx. 95% of my shoots in 24pAdvanced and edited in FCP. FCP has an easy setup that has worked for me that applies the 2;3;3;2 pulldown. If I go back to tape it puts it back. I don’t even think about it anymore. The quality is wonderful and I cansay that I have not regretted purchasing this camera. As a matter of fact, my very first shoot was a two camera run and gun recording of Kool & the Gang in concert [see some jpgs and a brief QT movie at – https://www.lightedpath.tv/pages/3/index.htm ]. Two DVX’s. One on-stage the other at FOH. I ran audio into the camera from the House Mix position. and it turned out great!

I authored a 24p DVD in DVD Studio Pro 3 (I’m now in v4 and Final Cut Studio) and it looked great on a set-top player.

I’ve never used the 24p regular setup in the camera or Final Cut so I can’t tell you what happens on that front, but I’m told that if you’re going out to NTSC tv that’s the way to go. I too, plan to purchase Nattress’ filters. There’s a G-Nicer filter that takes DV’s 4:1:1 chroma and improves it. It uses a proprietary algorithm that he developed. You put it before a chroma key, or on DV footage in an uncompressed 8bit 4:2:2 or whatever timeline to improve the chroma. You can read up about it here:

https://www.nattress.com/Chroma_Investigation/chromasampling.htm

Something that we are preparing for with great excitement is the ability to modify our DVX with the Andromeda/SculptureHD system from Reel-Stream. [see https://www.reel-stream.com/beta ] This will allow us to leap-frog into HD for a total camera cost of around 6k. Their system costs 3k and requires an internal modification of the camera, but judging from the current Beta test I’d prefer this setup to the HVX and the P2 card setup. Imagine 4;4;4; Uncompressed at up to 36bit (which is overkill, but shows the technology). All of sudden, I’d be the owner of a mini-Varicam.

I’d like to hear your comments.

Keith Hill
https://www.LightedPath.biz
Dallas, TX
Final Cut Pro 5.0.2, Combustion (MAC-v3.0.4), DVD StudioPro 4 (v 3.0.2); MAC G5 (v10.4.2-Tiger) 2Ghz, 1.5 RAM